Really? Another Miata thread....

Steve85 · 04-26-2018, 08:55 AM

This thing looks great and sounds like a blast to drive. I'm getting the impression that this gen is not built for tracking/racing very often. Is there a reason?

rherold9 · (This post was last modified: 04-26-2018, 10:17 AM by rherold9.)

(04-26-2018, 08:55 AM)Steve85 Wrote: This thing looks great and sounds like a blast to drive. I'm getting the impression that this gen is not built for tracking/racing very often. Is there a reason?

The NC chassis just has a bad rep because it's "overweight". People never give it a chance and especially not driving it in a performance environment to know what it can do. Most of the hate comes from people who won't track or race their vehicle anyway haha. That's all I can think of besides cost, although they are getting pretty damn cheap now...

And here come the pics from Chris I keep buying....

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rherold9 · (This post was last modified: 05-07-2018, 01:52 PM by rherold9.)

So, a Mazda Motorsports hardtop is ordered after some technical issue with their site prevented me from ordering last week. Let's see if I can get this hardtop delivered and MAACO'd by Hyperfest (May 19th) if not I guess it's going to be the white shipping primer. Supposedly they should have some in stock to be shipped out. Let's hope so...

Something just doesn't want me to get a hardtop for a track weekend I guess haha.

Oh, I set up a PayPal dispute for the DG hardtop and won. They didn't respond to the claim.

V1GiLaNtE · 05-08-2018, 08:30 AM

(05-07-2018, 01:50 PM)rherold9 Wrote: So, a Mazda Motorsports hardtop is ordered after some technical issue with their site prevented me from ordering last week. Let's see if I can get this hardtop delivered and MAACO'd by Hyperfest (May 19th) if not I guess it's going to be the white shipping primer. Supposedly they should have some in stock to be shipped out. Let's hope so...

Something just doesn't want me to get a hardtop for a track weekend I guess haha.

Oh, I set up a PayPal dispute for the DG hardtop and won. They didn't respond to the claim.

Bravo. I say we vinyl wrap it in something obnoxious like blaze orange..

Scott · 05-08-2018, 08:36 AM

(05-08-2018, 08:30 AM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: Bravo. I say we vinyl wrap it in something obnoxious like blaze orange..

No. It'll be the hotness painted body color

JPolen01 · 05-08-2018, 09:50 AM

Vinyl wrapping those compound curves is not going to be easy without a lot of experience. MAACO job will be cheaper than the material and time you'll waste trying to wrap it.

rherold9 · 05-08-2018, 10:45 AM

I'm not expecting much of a good job from MAACO, but if the paint match is worse than expected I'm probably just going to plasti-dip it black or something.

V1GiLaNtE · 05-08-2018, 11:06 AM

(05-08-2018, 10:45 AM)rherold9 Wrote: I'm not expecting much of a good job from MAACO, but if the paint match is worse than expected I'm probably just going to paint it chalkboard paint or something.

FTFY

RawrImAMonster · 05-08-2018, 11:21 AM

Why not just get an actual paint shop to spray it? If it already comes pimered, they won't have to do much prep work and it shouldn't cost that much.

rherold9 · 05-08-2018, 11:26 AM

(05-08-2018, 11:21 AM)RawrImAMonster Wrote: Why not just get an actual paint shop to spray it? If it already comes pimered, they won't have to do much prep work and it shouldn't cost that much.

It's a track/race top not OEM. Also, it's shipping primered not paint primered. It's just a protectant.

If someone can logically explain to me why I should spend $600 to get a nice prep + paint job (hardtop was only $1k, so half it's value in paint) that will be probably 90% of the time a track hardtop that will get damaged due to just being a fiberglass shell, chipped, etc vs. just MAACO'ing it I'm all ears.

JPolen01 · 05-08-2018, 11:47 AM

MAACO and be done with it.

Evan · 05-08-2018, 11:57 AM

How much does maaco want?

For track use, I consider maaco a luxury :-p
Personally Id probably just order a few cans from paintscratch and rattlecan it myself.

rherold9 · (This post was last modified: 05-08-2018, 01:17 PM by rherold9.)

(05-08-2018, 11:57 AM)Evan Wrote: How much does maaco want?

I would hope $150-200 max? I haven't checked. This is based off ScottK's whole Miata spray cost lol.

D_Eclipse9916 · 05-08-2018, 02:40 PM

(05-08-2018, 01:17 PM)rherold9 Wrote:
(05-08-2018, 11:57 AM)Evan Wrote: How much does maaco want?

I would hope $150-200 max? I haven't checked. This is based off ScottK's whole Miata spray cost lol.

Probably more like 250-300. Setting up for a spray is pricey, after that its easy to just go full hog.

RawrImAMonster · 05-09-2018, 08:34 AM

I think it was like 250 for an actual paint shop to repaint my rear bumper and diffuser on the M3. I can't imagine a top would be that much more. Granted that's Harrisonburg prices. Same shop did the Evo hood, front bumper, and blended into the fenders for 750.

Evan · 05-09-2018, 08:38 AM

(04-26-2018, 08:55 AM)Steve85 Wrote: This thing looks great and sounds like a blast to drive. I'm getting the impression that this gen is not built for tracking/racing very often. Is there a reason?

Early on there was some trouble getting a rollbar to work with the softtop, so it never took off as a hybrid street/track car.
It never took off for club racing because SM exists so if you're racing a miata, you're racing SM.

Scott · (This post was last modified: 05-09-2018, 06:40 PM by Scott.)

(05-08-2018, 02:40 PM)D_Eclipse9916 Wrote:
(05-08-2018, 01:17 PM)rherold9 Wrote:
(05-08-2018, 11:57 AM)Evan Wrote: How much does maaco want?

I would hope $150-200 max? I haven't checked. This is based off ScottK's whole Miata spray cost lol.

Probably more like 250-300. Setting up for a spray is pricey, after that its easy to just go full hog.

Having Maaco paint my SM only cost $350 (or maybe it was $300, I don't keep track) for the entire car.

(04-26-2018, 08:55 AM)Steve85 Wrote: This thing looks great and sounds like a blast to drive. I'm getting the impression that this gen is not built for tracking/racing very often. Is there a reason?

They actually do, just not with NASA. SCCA T4 class has really taken off with the NC Miata. I think they are expecting close to 30 of them at VIR in a couple weeks. Most of those are old converted MX5 cup cars that aged out with the ND cup cars came along in the series.

rherold9 · (This post was last modified: 05-10-2018, 10:16 AM by rherold9.)

Yeah, I noticed the SCCA T4 class has several of them. I just don't race SCCA :dunno:. Maybe in the future if PTT/5/6 plans don't work out and fields are slim. Should try to talk to Laura/Chris and get NASA-MA to try out a SPECMX5 for NCs Smile

Also, my CC still hasn't been charge. Guess the hard top is for sure not getting here in time Smile

**Goodspeed** · 05-10-2018, 12:28 PM

Looking forward to seeing the top on, they look so good on NC's. Also, not all Maaco's are created equal - some do an awesome job for the price, some suck. Case in point, the Maaco local to me (Chantilly) always got really good reviews for doing actual prep work and delivering quality jobs.

Scott · 05-10-2018, 01:12 PM

(05-10-2018, 10:01 AM)rherold9 Wrote: Yeah, I noticed the SCCA T4 class has several of them. I just don't race SCCA :dunno:. Maybe in the future if PTT/5/6 plans don't work out and fields are slim. Should try to talk to Laura/Chris and get NASA-MA to try out a SPECMX5 for NCs

Also, my CC still hasn't been charge. Guess the hard top is for sure not getting here in time

In all fairness, you don't currently "race" NASA either Tongue

I jumped to SCCA because of the field size and the lack of willingness by NASA to help the class grow (wouldn't tech us on the dyno but had no problem sending several gts/cmc/etc... cars every event), but I miss the NASA atmosphere

Spec MX5 (SM5) was tried before it turned into T4 to allow more cars in:

http://forum.specmiata.com/files/0000001...-Rules.pdf

I'm mentally planning a T4 NC build over the winter to be able to do the '19 Runoff's at VIR

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