NTIman Wrote:D_Eclipse9916 Wrote:I think they are great though. Most likely when I have a family/kids, ill be downsizing the racing, and the ability to have a fun car that can fit the kids, a car that the wife wants (most ex-gfs loved smaller suvs), and be able to tow an open trailer with a race car has a huge appeal.
Blasphemy. Full racing rig > Kids/family. :lol: :lol: :lol:
When it means I can fool my potential future wife into driving the tow vehicle while I get to drive a vette/viper/cock extension instead of an suv daily, then I will.
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I love the "Sport" SUVs, hell I love SUVs in general. Only "Sport" SUVs I would really own though would be a Cayenne or a Range Rover Sport SUPAHCHARGED.
Some of these are realllllyyy nearing lifted wagon anyway, the X1 for example. For some reason though, i REALLY want one.
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On principle, I hate "faux" SUVs that aren't designed to go anywhere but mall parking lots. If it's gonna have the ground clearance, give it a decent AWD/4x4 system. My (first-gen) Escape was actually pretty good off-road, and had some towing ability. The new Escape? Nooope. What will you tow with a turbo 1.6, a Miata bumper?
I'd rather have an M5 wagon than an X5M.
Now, the fancy-pants luxobarge SUVs that have a fuckton of power and can also tow The Sun while rock-crawling with their air suspension set to Max Lift and the terrain system set to Zombie Attack? Bring 'em on. I really like the Touraeg/Q7/Cayenne cousins because they're quick and pretty capable.
You don't have to sacrifice power and creature comforts for utility, but the GMC Terrains and BMW X1s and Nissan Rogues of the world shouldn't exist. Bring back the damn wagon.
Now:
'16 Ram 1500 | '97 BMW M3 | Some Press Loan
Then:
87 BMW 325e | 91 BMW 535i | 96 BMW 328i | 95 BMW 325i | 95 Mazda Miata | 13 Focus ST | 09 BMW 128i | 00 Pontiac Firebird | 05 Yukon Denali | 96 BMW 328iC | 11 Ford F-150 | 06 BMW M3 | 10 Range Rover SC | '03 Ford Ranger | '18 Ford F-150 | '01 BMW X5 | '98 Volvo S70 T5M
Jake Wrote:You don't have to sacrifice power and creature comforts for utility, but the GMC Terrains and BMW X1s and Nissan Rogues of the world shouldn't exist. Bring back the damn wagon.
Amen.
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Like, seriously. How does ANYONE drive a Rogue with that little 4-cylinder hooked up to a CVT that drones on and on as it wheezes up to 55 mph and think, "yes, this is good, I would like to buy one of these" and then ACTUALLY BUY IT.
It's the same with the Caliber. Dodge sold them to lots of humans, not just rental car agencies. And people actually like owning them. Speaking from experience, they're Bad.
Now:
'16 Ram 1500 | '97 BMW M3 | Some Press Loan
Then:
87 BMW 325e | 91 BMW 535i | 96 BMW 328i | 95 BMW 325i | 95 Mazda Miata | 13 Focus ST | 09 BMW 128i | 00 Pontiac Firebird | 05 Yukon Denali | 96 BMW 328iC | 11 Ford F-150 | 06 BMW M3 | 10 Range Rover SC | '03 Ford Ranger | '18 Ford F-150 | '01 BMW X5 | '98 Volvo S70 T5M
Jake Wrote:Like, seriously. How does ANYONE drive a Rogue with that little 4-cylinder hooked up to a CVT that drones on and on as it wheezes up to 55 mph and think, "yes, this is good, I would like to buy one of these" and then ACTUALLY BUY IT. :lol: My mother-in-law has one, seems like well put together vehicle, but I've never driven it. I would have to agree with the wagon comment though, a Rogue or CRV really should just be a wagon. :dunno: But hey, most SUVs should be minivans. I guess many Americans just don't like driving vehicles that meet their actual needs.
Along that point G, if a van is more useful, can both tow and/or have a bike inside and/or sleeping, gear space.... seems like the right choice. I still don't get your parking arguement. A van fits in a regular space, especially a 3/4ths van like a GMC Safari.
FWIW I don't have anything against "sport" SUVs if you have lots of money to burn. :thumbup:
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a van is a good guy with a van
BLINGMW Wrote:like a GMC Safari.
Ever see a crash test video for one of those? They have the structural integrity of a Pringles can.
Now:
'16 Ram 1500 | '97 BMW M3 | Some Press Loan
Then:
87 BMW 325e | 91 BMW 535i | 96 BMW 328i | 95 BMW 325i | 95 Mazda Miata | 13 Focus ST | 09 BMW 128i | 00 Pontiac Firebird | 05 Yukon Denali | 96 BMW 328iC | 11 Ford F-150 | 06 BMW M3 | 10 Range Rover SC | '03 Ford Ranger | '18 Ford F-150 | '01 BMW X5 | '98 Volvo S70 T5M
Ken Wrote:For some reason though, i REALLY want one.
Wat.
Now: 07 Porsche Cayman S | 18 VW Tiguan
Then: 18 VW GTI Autobahn | 95 BMW M3 | 15 VW GTI SE | 12 Kia Optima SX | 2009 VW GTI | 00 BMW 540i Sport | 90 Mazda Miata | 94 Yamaha FZR600R | 1993 Suzuki GS500E | 2003 BMW 325i | 95 Saab 900S
Jake Wrote:Ever see a crash test video for one of those? They have the structural integrity of a Pringles can. haha no I haven't. Of course, I'm recommending it to a guy who wants to RACE MOTORCYCLES though...
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a van is a good guy with a van
BLINGMW Wrote:Jake Wrote:Ever see a crash test video for one of those? They have the structural integrity of a Pringles can. haha no I haven't. Of course, I'm recommending it to a guy who wants to RACE MOTORCYCLES though....
I dunno man, this looks pretty gnarly:
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Now:
'16 Ram 1500 | '97 BMW M3 | Some Press Loan
Then:
87 BMW 325e | 91 BMW 535i | 96 BMW 328i | 95 BMW 325i | 95 Mazda Miata | 13 Focus ST | 09 BMW 128i | 00 Pontiac Firebird | 05 Yukon Denali | 96 BMW 328iC | 11 Ford F-150 | 06 BMW M3 | 10 Range Rover SC | '03 Ford Ranger | '18 Ford F-150 | '01 BMW X5 | '98 Volvo S70 T5M
SlimKlim Wrote:Ken Wrote:For some reason though, i REALLY want one.
Wat.
Did someone buy a P!nk CD and a Curves membership? :roll:
Now:
'16 Ram 1500 | '97 BMW M3 | Some Press Loan
Then:
87 BMW 325e | 91 BMW 535i | 96 BMW 328i | 95 BMW 325i | 95 Mazda Miata | 13 Focus ST | 09 BMW 128i | 00 Pontiac Firebird | 05 Yukon Denali | 96 BMW 328iC | 11 Ford F-150 | 06 BMW M3 | 10 Range Rover SC | '03 Ford Ranger | '18 Ford F-150 | '01 BMW X5 | '98 Volvo S70 T5M
Impala vs Impala is my favorite:
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I'd like to se Safari vs BMW 2002 :lol:
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a van is a good guy with a van
Jake Wrote:I really like the Touraeg/Q7/Cayenne cousins because they're quick and pretty capable.
Bring back the damn wagon.
These two statements x eleventiybillion.
I love me some TDI Touraeg. I told the GF I wanted one and she asked when I was buying it. Apparently they're popular? :dunno:
I don't know why anyone would buy something like a Cherokee SRT8. It makes no sense to me. It's like you can't make up your damn mind between a sports car and a practical daily so you get something that can't do either very well. Same thing with all these dang FWD SUVS with micro engines and 0 offroad capability. Either get yourself a camry because you're just going to daily it, or buy yourself something offroad capable because you actually will get offroad.
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Tyler.M Wrote:I don't know why anyone would buy something like a Cherokee SRT8. It makes no sense to me. It's like you can't make up your damn mind between a sports car and a practical daily so you get something that can't do either very well.
I have pondered this exact conundrum many times. It could be a good tow vehicle but they nipped that in the bud with those stupid center exhaust tips. Without a tow hook it has no functionality or purpose. The huge wheels and non-existent ground clearance make it so you couldn't even rock-crawl over a curb, and its so tall and heavy its not gonna accelerate or turn like a car with the same motor. At least the SRT10 Ram could still do truck things.
Now: 07 Porsche Cayman S | 18 VW Tiguan
Then: 18 VW GTI Autobahn | 95 BMW M3 | 15 VW GTI SE | 12 Kia Optima SX | 2009 VW GTI | 00 BMW 540i Sport | 90 Mazda Miata | 94 Yamaha FZR600R | 1993 Suzuki GS500E | 2003 BMW 325i | 95 Saab 900S
You've never driven one, I take it.
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CaptainHenreh Wrote:You've never driven one, I take it.
I haven't. I'm sure it's fast. But I feel like the whole time I'm driving it that I could have spent the same money on something faster and trackable or something that's capable off road.
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CaptainHenreh Wrote:You've never driven one, I take it.
Why would I want to?
Now: 07 Porsche Cayman S | 18 VW Tiguan
Then: 18 VW GTI Autobahn | 95 BMW M3 | 15 VW GTI SE | 12 Kia Optima SX | 2009 VW GTI | 00 BMW 540i Sport | 90 Mazda Miata | 94 Yamaha FZR600R | 1993 Suzuki GS500E | 2003 BMW 325i | 95 Saab 900S
The Jeep STR8 Cherokee... its not even close to being a crawler or a mall crawler. Diamler put in the air bag/magnetic set up in there to make them VERY comfortable SUVs with ZERO aftermarket or factory lift support. It is 100% a street rod SUV. and it does it very well. its fast, it brakes well, its comfortable, and it will smoke the tires
the die hard jeep crew would LOVE to make it into a ball'n rock crawler... but its not in the cards. Its literally the Jeep answer to the Porsche, Land Rover V8s, etc.
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