(03-01-2019, 09:22 AM)Steve85 Wrote: No new car until they know the bar set by the C8. Not that there will be cross shopping, but if the all new Ferrari is getting smoked by a Chevy, the Italians will cry. [emoji14] Do they really care at this point? Italian cars sell because they're Italian.
I know I'm being the old man in marketing meeting right now that will eventually tank the company, but I don't see this changing any time in the future.
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On another note has anyone seen the news on how GT4's shock towers are failing? They must be taking notes from BMW.
Here's one huge thread:
https://rennlist.com/forums/gt4/948382-s...ilure.html![[Image: acd3d7090398b8185a42f4132ebc5469.jpg]](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190301/acd3d7090398b8185a42f4132ebc5469.jpg)
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Yeah I actually just saw something about that the other week. Pretty disappointing that they wouldn't properly reinforce that area. People are even having problems even on street cars when they hit pot holes.
Oh well, not like I'll ever own one anyway.
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(03-01-2019, 10:31 AM)rherold9 Wrote: On another note has anyone seen the news on how GT4's shock towers are failing? They must be taking notes from BMW.
Here's one huge thread:
https://rennlist.com/forums/gt4/948382-s...ilure.html
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Wow did you see that response from the guy in Austin who was supposed to take delivery on his GT3 when the tech hit a curb on the pre delivery test drive? Same thing happened, he didn't take the car and they couldn't get another allocation...haha
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They make reinforcement plates. Can't say the same for R8 owners with their firewalls cracking :0
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At a fridge bowl event last year, a Porsche hit a curbing too hard and the strut mount failed and the shock piston tried to punch through the hood.
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(03-01-2019, 09:22 AM)Steve85 Wrote: No new car until they know the bar set by the C8. Not that there will be cross shopping, but if the all new Ferrari is getting smoked by a Chevy, the Italians will cry. 
Nah the current C7 Z06 and ZR1 can already take the 488's lunch money. Ferrari isn't particularly worried about the Corvette because Ferrari buyers are not really cross-shopping the two. Lamborghini, Porsche, and McLaren are the ones siphoning off Ferrari customers. Even then, they don't really have any problem moving the mid-engined Ferraris.
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(03-01-2019, 11:13 AM)D_Eclipse9916 Wrote: They make reinforcement plates. Can't say the same for R8 owners with their firewalls cracking :0
i saw that with Samcrac's video on youtube. nuts. i can't imagine having an R8 and then having to get that area reinforced. They're aluminum bodies, right?
(03-01-2019, 10:51 AM)WRXtranceformed Wrote: (03-01-2019, 10:31 AM)rherold9 Wrote: On another note has anyone seen the news on how GT4's shock towers are failing? They must be taking notes from BMW.
Here's one huge thread:
https://rennlist.com/forums/gt4/948382-s...ilure.html
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Wow did you see that response from the guy in Austin who was supposed to take delivery on his GT3 when the tech hit a curb on the pre delivery test drive? Same thing happened, he didn't take the car and they couldn't get another allocation...haha
Another reason the 997 GT3 where Porsche peaked.
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(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
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There's got to be a better explanation of this 112mph/180kph self-imposed Volvo speed limit
https://www.theguardian.com/business/201...-cars-2020
So you're a manufacturer who wants to reduce high speed accidents. And the highest speed limit in the US is 85mph (137kph), and 130kph (81) on the autobahn, though some sections are unrestricted. So you choose 112mph?! Oh ok, so now you're preventing ludicrous speed accidents, but I can safely assume the vast majority of "high speed" accidents occur at less than 85mph.
The only thing I can think of that matches this arbitrary 112 is that's the rated limit of an "S" rated tire. So if that's what they put on their cars, that kind of makes sense. But don't say it's to reduce high speed accidents.
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I really fail to see the problem here. Every single media outlet was trying to make this the biggest headline yesterday. Must have been a slow day for news? All mass produced vehicles have an electronically limited speed limit. Volvo just decided to announce that they were lowering theirs for some reason. And to claim it in the name of safety? Whatever.
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its definitely not for "safety". you can still F a lot of stuff up at 112mph and its faster than 99.9% of normal Volvo buyers will ever go, by a fair margin. and the Volvo buyers that want to go faster will just get an aftermarket tune that will disable the electronic limiter.
i'm with Chan, there's a mechanical reason especially with it being exactly 112 which is a completely out of nowhere number.
interestingly, the old S197 Mustang V6 was limited to exactly 112 as well, because if you went over that speed, the driveshaft would grenade.
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Volvo doesn't think in mph, they think in kph. A limit of 180 kph is a lot less conspiracy theory-ish than 112.
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(03-05-2019, 12:59 PM)Apoc Wrote: Volvo doesn't think in mph, they think in kph. A limit of 180 kph is a lot less conspiracy theory-ish than 112.
still kinda begs the question. why 180? why not 160, which is nears as makes no difference to a clean 100mph. still faster than "safe"
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Why 160? Why not 170? We could do this all day.
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(03-05-2019, 05:29 PM)ScottyB Wrote: (03-05-2019, 12:59 PM)Apoc Wrote: Volvo doesn't think in mph, they think in kph. A limit of 180 kph is a lot less conspiracy theory-ish than 112.
still kinda begs the question. why 180? why not 160, which is nears as makes no difference to a clean 100mph. still faster than "safe"
I think Chan nailed it with S rated tires - isn't this the lowest speed rating for non-truck usage? If I had to guess, it's a cost-saving thing because they can now put S tires on all their vehicles.
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(03-05-2019, 10:08 AM)JPolen01 Wrote: slow day for news
pretty much. And not one of the dozens of sites I see reposting the story bothers to do any critical thinking and figure out it's a non story.
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I think I read somewhere it was due to the real time systems for self driving/auto driving that won't be able to keep up, in time for their zero fatality deadline of 2020
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