Sport SUV's, Love Em or Hate Em?

[ScottyB]

Which is a wagon. On stilts.

this is the exact argument, to the word, i tried to use to reason with my wife for why she wanted an SUV and not a wagon. she didn't want a wagon because her parents had some giantass family truckster and she hated it. i have no idea how she works with DNA every day but somehow makes that weird mental leap with SUVs.

[V1GiLaNtE]

Hold-up. You're going to hang me out to dry on a "driving quickly occasionally" assertion on a forum of motorsport enthusiasts that have street-registered sports cars and regularly drive on the street a little more quickly than is reasonable? That's a bit unfair. As a motorcyclist, you're right, I'm, intimately familiar with where and when it's safe to go quickly. And should I own an SUV capable of laying it down occasionally, you've got to trust that I have the judgement to do so in a reasonable manner. Otherwise, that point's a bit specious at best. I mean, you're basically geographically limiting who can own fast things or assuming that the people that do only go quickly at the track. So let's take that one off the table.

One thing I continue to learn is that I am not special or unique. I'm far from the only person that really does see a lot of usefulness in this type of vehicle. Yeah, I agree that you've got your toolsheds and douchebags running around giving themselves a bad name, but every group has them. I don't think it's reasonable to write off an entire model group based on anecdotal experiences. I guess if you don't think they're useful, then you don't. But I'm not the only person posting here saying "I really can see a role for these vehicles in my life" and I think that speaks for itself.

Nope, not you. You're "driving quickly occasionally" is sensible because of your association to motorsports enthusiast. Not because you're late to work and feel the need to blow a red light at 70, merge between cars at 90, and an overall blatant disregard for sensible driving most of the time. It comes with the car. My statement about motorcyles was directed towards you probably encountering said individual riding. Hell most any person in humungo SUv. Granted that's a blanketed statement but that just how I see it. I've seen people driving them normally but most of the time, no, they don't. Do you like them, does DJ like them, does G. like them? Sure. You're right I don't think of them as completely useful. Hence the title of the thread. Love Em or Hate Em

[V1GiLaNtE]

Oh, and I think it's only fair to point out that I look like a douchebag.

Can't tell if that was mean by you driving the Porsche or do you actually fit the slicked back hair, smug-look, aviator profile? If the latter I apologize. I guess the XJ is fitting for me because it would only be fair to say I sorta look like a redneck..at least if you caught me in my Carhartt get-up :thumbup:

Some can attest to this statement.

[G.Irish]

So basically if any of us buy a sport SUV we must:

A. Not let our wives/girlfriends drive them
B. Not slick back our hair or wear aviators
C. Always be towing something

Someone update the Car Guy Manual please 8)

[V1GiLaNtE]

So basically if any of us buy a sport SUV we must:

A. Not let our wives/girlfriends drive them
B. Not slick back our hair or wear aviators
C. Always be towing something ideally it should be a race bike

Someone update the Car Guy Manual please 8)

[Evan]

So basically if any of us buy a sport SUV we must:

A. Not let our wives/girlfriends drive them
B. Not slick back our hair or wear aviators
C. Always be towing something

Someone update the Car Guy Manual please 8)

you forgot
D. ONLY drive them offroad. No pavement driving permitted. Better find a mountain you can drive over between your house and your work.


:bootyshake:


the retardation in this thread is over the top.

[G.Irish]

On that note, I'd love to see a Top Gear episode where they got a Cayenne Turbo, X5 M, and SRT8 and attempted to do the Baja 1000 or something with them. I imagine it would end up a lot like that failed Ford Raptor jump video. Maybe if I was rich I would try something stupid like that myself.

[Jake]

On that note, I'd love to see a Top Gear episode where they got a Cayenne Turbo, X5 M, and SRT8 and attempted to do the Baja 1000 or something with them. I imagine it would end up a lot like that failed Ford Raptor jump video. Maybe if I was rich I would try something stupid like that myself.

Clarkson did something along those lines with an X6. Not the Baja 1000 but a good start. I'd support the Baja idea though

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[Mike]

damn, i missed this? i've got nothing to add other than to qualify my statement that the srt8 cherokee sucks. i drove one for a long road trip. it was fucking awesome, but it fucking sucked at the same time. much like the viper. i think you can see where i'm going here... :bootyshake:

WHERE YOU AT, JEFF!? IM OUT, BITCHES!

[JPolen01]

^that episode was so full of win for Clarkson and loss for bmw.

[PDenbigh]

So, not considered a real "Sport SUV", but perhaps you could look at something like a new Ford Explorer? 3.5 twin turbo, 365hp/350tq (before the boost knob), 5000# towing. In a year or so they will be on the used market and probably pretty affordable.

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[WRXtranceformed]

^^ That's what I'm saying. Buy an SUV with potential and just crank it up a notch instead of being that douche with the X5M. Those Exploders are really, really nice by the way, I have rented several Limiteds

[G.Irish]

Yeah now that there are a couple of SUV's coming from the factory with boost that might be an easy way to go. 365/350 is already plenty to work with.

[ScottyB]

Some of the sport SUV's can actually tow a decent amount.

SRT8: 5000 lbs
Cayenne Turbo (and Diesel): 7716 lbs
X5 M: 6000 lbs

no shit? i am le surprised, especially about the porsche. i do remember hearing the Tauregs (however you spell that nonsense) could tow silly amounts but that was the W8 diesel, so not really sportay.

[G.Irish]

I stand corrected, the 2014 SRT8 will be able to tow 7200 lbs:

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[SlimKlim]

The tow rating and the non-blinged out wheels swings me all the way from hate to love.

I want one. Bad.

[.RJ]

"Jeep purchased steering wheels of high-performance models hailing from Audi, BMW and Porsche to make sure its is truly world class."

And then what did they do with them, throw them in the trashcan?

Hopefully that interior looks better in person.

[BLINGMW]

Glancing at the SRT8 article...

If you're driving at a track, there's a dedicated mode that takes as many of the electronic nannies away...

...Jeep says its test drivers shaved six-tenths of a second off their lap times due to the upgraded transmission at Nelson Ledges Road Course in Ohio. That's a massive improvement when talking all-out hot laps.

wait, what is this thing for? I get TESTING such things at a track, but... what customer is taking this on a track? One might see some pace laps. Maybe it's not a tow vehicle since you don't need to tow anything, is also race car! :dunno: :lol:

Hey, with "sports" cars weighing nearly 4000lbs these days, 5150 isn't much more? I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

[G.Irish]

Yeah I don't see how anyone could take this out to the track, unless they owned the track. Or maybe if they were doing one of those racetrack country club deals.

Then again, I remember having a Lightning in my group back in the day once.

[BLINGMW]

One Lap of America. Could see one there. That's about all I can think of.

That guy with the Lighting was similarly a little nuts.