The C8 Corvette Thread

[Senor_Taylor]

It looks like since the axle lift can be GPS activated...

LOL really? Ok, some ride height adjustability is great and all, but if an extra inch or two is what you need on the street, then fucking just leave it there? Front-splitter-destroying dead skunk isn't going to show up on GPS enabled maps. It only "needs" to be lower at the track.

What exactly is the need for being angry about an optional feature?

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[BLINGMW]

What exactly is the need for being angry about an optional feature?

I thought it might be something useful or cool 

https://youtu.be/q8sVDenpPOE?t=106

but it is not.

[.RJ]

It could be useful if it was tied to say, speed or track use, to tune how effective the front aero is.... or if the same tech did the same thing with spring preload.

[JPolen01]

Wow that was an interesting rant. Quite the passion.

[Steve85]

So they design it to perform well at the track and then also provide a cool and useful feature to make it more street friendly for entering parking lots, driveways, going over extreme speed bumps, etc and y’all mad.

Seriously laughable to be disappointed that you don’t get an active aero and suspension car for 65k. Can’t even be taken seriously at this point.


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[BLINGMW]

It sounds like an awesome car, but I can still poke fun at overly complicated things that I wouldn't pay a dime for, no? Put the run-flats in that category too please.

[D_Eclipse9916]

Not appreciating a front axle lift means you have never owned a corvette.

I wouldn’t spend $1500 of my own, but I could understand those who do.

[JPolen01]

Not appreciating a front axle lift means you have never owned a corvette.

I wouldn’t spend $1500 of my own, but I could understand those who do.

Would you pay for it on a GT3 though?

[Steve85]

I went to Corvettes at Carlisle and they had 5 C8's there - a cutaway version, zeus brown, white (with ron fellows stickers), a red in the display booth and then a red Z51 "driver" that was not on official display.

Some random thoughts on the cutaway:

Great looking headers that just happen to come up into some open space with almost identical routing to the twin turbo 488.




Open space conveniently directly inline with the front hubs. As if planning some sort of future direct drive unit for the front wheels. (the shock/spring do seem like they would be in the way, but the knuckle had a pretty suspicious looking opening with a block off plate.




Lots of aluminum (as seen above), probably the biggest difference between this and the same car in CF being 2x the $$ easily.




In order to give a low door sill entry, the center tunnel is massive and probably impacts that interior design. Not sure why the interior people were happy about no manual, that center spine is far more intrusive to the design. For example, in a Ferrari without that spine, you definitely get a more open and simplified space. Years of being told the interiors were too basic have lead to a shift to the other end of the scale and I'm not a huge fan.




At the entrance to the display booth they had white one:







Not sure I'm sold on the Zeus Brown, it does have a ton of flake in it though.



I didn't go in the display booth because they weren't letting people sit in the car so while it was open (doors, hood, engine cover) I didn't care enough to wait in line. While I was checking out the cutaway version a red Z51 drove by, stopped to talk to one of the display reps and then drove off. Funny timing with the rev, that was actually a C7 in the tent to the left of the C8.



I knew they weren't going to pack the thing up so I hunted it down hoping to be able to check it out for more than 4 seconds without running into someone. Found it behind a shed right at the fairgrounds entrance. Some of these already posted to the FB but here they are. I took a bunch of pics in poor lighting (not that it matters, I only had my phone because I didn't think I'd get a chance to use a real camera) then hunted down some parts in the swap meet. I came back like 90 minutes later expecting it to be swamped with people now and still only a couple people. It was a great opportunity to really check it out!









It's a shame about the rear bumper design because the way the cockpit flows back to it looks really good. Has an early C3 vibe.



A quick walk around.



It appears to be a big hit with the older folks too based on the conversations I overheard.

I'm a big fan, things I like, things I don't, and things I love about it. Seeing it among so many C7s, there was clearly direction to continue some of the C7 styling cues. It's not as flowy as a Ferrari and doesn't do the hard angle thing as cleanly as the Lambo, but it's a hell of a start.

[G.Irish]

Thanks for the megapost Steve! I just keep looking at this car like...it's hard to find flaws. There are some to be sure, but this just looks like such a massive leap forward.

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Some stats from Chevy:

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Base   Z51
       0-60: 3.0s   2.9s
   1/4 mile: 11.3s  ?
   lateralg: .90g   1.0g
curb weight: 3535   3577

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/08/28/chev...e-0-to-60/

[rherold9]

I'm sure a lot of people have read reviews, but overall the C8 of course is a great vehicle and I'm sure the woes of handling will be changed with performance variants. Seems like they did this in a very smart way, imo. Base model to appease the masses while having outstanding performance models for the collectors/actual track folks! That 0-60 time is nuts and will get those leased vehicles from the 50 year olds enough joy just cruising around town

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/fi...rive-test/

[G.Irish]

Yeah the initial reviews show that this car is just bonkers for the money. Hard to imagine how high they're going to reset the bar when the Z06 arrives.

What would really be dope is if the rumored flat-plane DOHC V8 for the Z06 came in a naturally aspirated version for the Grand Sport. A high-revving N/A Corvette for not much more than the Stingray would be heavenly, at least for my tastes.

[ScottyB]

i think the handling is very, very deliberately oversafe. their target market would never be able to put a mid engined V8 car on the edge of its traction envelope if it was tuned aggressively. 95% of these cars will never put any shoulder wear on the tires anyway.

i'd bet good money the performance variants will be much more aggressive. the corvette team has always had some very capable engineers and they know what's riding on a corvette this radical from past iterations if they don't deliver.

[ScottyB]

uh oh.  rumblings that the C8 testers were ringers.

additional comments:

"Anyone who has spent as much time as I have staring at performance data and magazine data can tell you that naturally aspirated engines usually top out at 80 lb-ft of torque per liter on pump fuel. Some really strung-out engines like on the Ferrari 458 or the Porsche GT3RS will hit 85+ lb-ft/liter, but it's rare. And the Corvette engine is a pushrod engine that probably isn't hitting 85+ lb-ft/liter.

This has something to do with the amount of energy available in gasoline, the density of natural atmospheric air, and various other physical factors of our universe that can't be changed.

So let's look at the dyno numbers

Even assuming a very conservative 10% drivetrain loss (VERY conservative with a dual clutch transmission, etc.), the 515 wtq equates to 572 lb-ft of torque out of the LT2. That's 92 lb-ft/liter out of a 6.2L pushrod V8.

There's just no way."


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The C8 weighs approximately 3,600 pounds. With a 123mph trap speed, that indicates about 530 WHEEL horsepower, or about 623.5 CRANK horsepower.

Calculator is here: https://www.gregraven.org/hotwater/c...rom-wt-hp.html


if there turns out to be more evidence flooding in against the C8 test fleet as cheaters i'm going to be incredibly dissapointed. for such a halo car with so much pomp and circumstance surrounding its reveal i can't imagine The General would be stupid enough to think nobody would go over the car with a fine tooth comb to find this kind of thing out.

on the other hand, have DCT transmissions become so freakin amazing that 3600lb. RWD cars with less than 500hp are capable of 0-60 in under 3 seconds and 120+ mph trap speeds? very interesting to see how this pans out. i'm sure we'll get some deep dives on this with as hot of a press magnet as the C8 is right now.

and then of course there's dyno operator error. its apparently a reliable dyno motor trend used before to verify numbers on other cars, but we all know they can be completely off if they aren't manipulated the right way. slim chance but possible.

[JPolen01]

There's a ton of speculation and not much else. Yawn.

[KettleKooked]

dealer markup is going to be insane for the first few months. doubt one will leave under 20k+ msrp in the first month.

[RawrImAMonster]

It's a mass produced base model corvette. I hope there aren't many people dumb enough to pay a $20k markup.

[Senor_Taylor]

Has there been a markup on previous Corvettes? I don't really see this being any different.

[G.Irish]

Corvettes have had markups before for the early adopters but there are a number of big dealerships that commit to MSRP. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out this time because I think demand will be higher than usual, which means markups may persist for longer.