10-26-2018, 04:56 PM
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Holy crap, I love it! The very fact that it looks like a clean 90's concept is why I do - really surprised McLaren put away the chisels and axes for the clay model of this one (the Senna is ass). I just wish it had the disc wheel covers on the back too to complete the awesomeness (guessing they were just off in this vid to show the wheel design though). Bravo!
(10-26-2018, 04:02 PM)G.Irish Wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPgPipm9rFA
"As elegant as the Senna is ugly" he says...preach brother, preach.
The Senna looks like it's made out of Legos.
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Quote:According to a screenshot of an information sheet about the new Gladiator posted by the forums, the Gladiator will be capable of 30 inches of water fording, a towing capacity up to 7,650 pounds and a 1,600 payload capacity.
According to the sheet, it will be available with a 3.6-liter V6 or 3.0-liter EcoDiesel V6, and can be optioned with either a 6-speed manual or 8-speed automatic.
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11-15-2018, 10:45 AM
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Guaranteed to option out at $70k for the deisel and 85% will only use the lockers to get out of dicey outdoor concert parking
But damn FCA knows how to print money
What's the hellcat version going to be called? The Gladiator Throatpunch?
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(11-15-2018, 10:45 AM)ScottyB Wrote: What's the hellcat version going to be called?
Spartan DonkeyPunch
I... kinda like it. It's rated for WAY more towing than a Wrangler which makes me wonder what's different suspension-wise. I think a Wrangler is listed at 2500 lbs or something.
Now:
'16 Ram 1500 | '97 BMW M3 | Some Press Loan
Then:
87 BMW 325e | 91 BMW 535i | 96 BMW 328i | 95 BMW 325i | 95 Mazda Miata | 13 Focus ST | 09 BMW 128i | 00 Pontiac Firebird | 05 Yukon Denali | 96 BMW 328iC | 11 Ford F-150 | 06 BMW M3 | 10 Range Rover SC | '03 Ford Ranger | '18 Ford F-150 | '01 BMW X5 | '98 Volvo S70 T5M
11-15-2018, 10:55 AM
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Sijray21 Wrote:Spartan DonkeyPunch
Alpha Dickpunt
(11-15-2018, 10:53 AM)Jake Wrote: I... kinda like it. It's rated for WAY more towing than a Wrangler which makes me wonder what's different suspension-wise. I think a Wrangler is listed at 2500 lbs or something.
i bet at least half that increase is simply due to additional control with the added wheelbase
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(11-15-2018, 10:55 AM)ScottyB Wrote: (11-15-2018, 10:53 AM)Jake Wrote: I... kinda like it. It's rated for WAY more towing than a Wrangler which makes me wonder what's different suspension-wise. I think a Wrangler is listed at 2500 lbs or something.
i bet at least half that increase is simply due to additional control with the added wheelbase
The 4-door last-gen Wrangler is already 116" (which is longer than my Range Rover was, by about 3") so I wonder how much longer this is. Maybe 120-something.
Now:
'16 Ram 1500 | '97 BMW M3 | Some Press Loan
Then:
87 BMW 325e | 91 BMW 535i | 96 BMW 328i | 95 BMW 325i | 95 Mazda Miata | 13 Focus ST | 09 BMW 128i | 00 Pontiac Firebird | 05 Yukon Denali | 96 BMW 328iC | 11 Ford F-150 | 06 BMW M3 | 10 Range Rover SC | '03 Ford Ranger | '18 Ford F-150 | '01 BMW X5 | '98 Volvo S70 T5M
11-15-2018, 11:03 AM
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(11-15-2018, 10:53 AM)Jake Wrote: I... kinda like it. It's rated for WAY more towing than a Wrangler which makes me wonder what's different suspension-wise. I think a Wrangler is listed at 2500 lbs or something.
Just by the naked eye the wheelbase is much longer than a wrangler. Makes me believe this is built on its own frame and doesn't share that with the wrangler. I could be 100% wrong though. Also I bet that towing capacity is the diesel version.
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11-15-2018, 11:24 AM
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1st - Really cool. Drop top pickup that can tow an open trailer??!?! Awesome!
2nd - Waiting for the first funny videos of people hauling a load of mulch with the top off and hitting 40mph with all the mulch debris flying forward in their faces.
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(11-15-2018, 11:24 AM)D_Eclipse9916 Wrote: 1st - Really cool. Drop top pickup that can tow an open trailer??!?! Awesome!
2nd - Waiting for the first funny videos of people hauling a load of mulch with the top off and hitting 40mph with all the mulch debris flying forward in their faces.
Yes and yes  This will be great.
Now:
'16 Ram 1500 | '97 BMW M3 | Some Press Loan
Then:
87 BMW 325e | 91 BMW 535i | 96 BMW 328i | 95 BMW 325i | 95 Mazda Miata | 13 Focus ST | 09 BMW 128i | 00 Pontiac Firebird | 05 Yukon Denali | 96 BMW 328iC | 11 Ford F-150 | 06 BMW M3 | 10 Range Rover SC | '03 Ford Ranger | '18 Ford F-150 | '01 BMW X5 | '98 Volvo S70 T5M
Chances this Wrangler thing doesn't have a Ram Frame under it?
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(11-15-2018, 11:33 AM)Senor_Taylor Wrote: Chances this Wrangler thing doesn't have a Ram Frame under it?
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The shortest Ram 1500 lists a 140" wheelbase, which strikes me as too long for something that looks like a Wrangler and will likely be expected to off-road at least somewhat like one. The 2019 Ranger wheelbase is listed at 127" so it may be about that long, but would be a new frame or a chopped (?) Ram 1500 frame.
Now:
'16 Ram 1500 | '97 BMW M3 | Some Press Loan
Then:
87 BMW 325e | 91 BMW 535i | 96 BMW 328i | 95 BMW 325i | 95 Mazda Miata | 13 Focus ST | 09 BMW 128i | 00 Pontiac Firebird | 05 Yukon Denali | 96 BMW 328iC | 11 Ford F-150 | 06 BMW M3 | 10 Range Rover SC | '03 Ford Ranger | '18 Ford F-150 | '01 BMW X5 | '98 Volvo S70 T5M
We will know soon enough. It is debuting at the LA Auto Show on November 28th.
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11-15-2018, 12:48 PM
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I hope they make a single cab that barely sells because that looks kinda goofy as a crew with 4 foot bed. I'll still take it b/c Jeep Pickup but feels kinda let-downy from the usually awesome concepts that come out of Jeep (see: Gladiator concept during JK era)
I was hoping for more of a unique-yet-recognizably-Jeep truck - I know all we could really hope for is a bed tacked on the back of a Wrangler but it still looks too tacked-on to me.
Actually, gimme the AEV TJ Brute instead
I've been traveling up to MI occasionally for work this year, and one unforeseen perk is the amount of prototypes you see just cruising around.
I was pretty excited to see one in full camo garb up in Ann Arbor earlier this week.... did not look significantly longer than the Unlimited wheelbase - but maybe thats the camo trickery
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Yeah, but does it come in manual?
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(11-15-2018, 01:05 PM)Apoc Wrote: Yeah, but does it come in manual?
Quote:According to the sheet, it will be available with a 3.6-liter V6 or 3.0-liter EcoDiesel V6, and can be optioned with either a 6-speed manual or 8-speed automatic.
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11-15-2018, 01:11 PM
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Sorry, I forgot my <rj></rj> tags.
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"Here, at last, is the cure for texting while driving. The millions of deaths which occur every year due to the iPhone’s ability to stream the Kim K/Ray-J video in 4G could all be avoided, every last one of them, if the government issued everyone a Seventies 911 and made sure they always left the house five minutes later than they’d wanted to. It would help if it could be made to rain as well. Full attention on the road. Guaranteed." -Jack Baruth
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