The Official "Jet Planes Are Effin' Boss" Thread

[CaptainHenreh]

For a dead horse, I will admit...it's pretty sexy:

[Mike]

is there such a thing as close-quarters dogfighting anymore?

[CaptainHenreh]

is there such a thing as close-quarters dogfighting anymore?

With OTH targeting, if you're in a real live dogfight you've already screwed up plans A-D.

[HAULN-SS]

didnt the pentagon just confirm like 75 more of these to be built? what do you mean its a dead horse?

[CaptainHenreh]

didnt the pentagon just confirm like 75 more of these to be built? what do you mean its a dead horse?

Just to mutilate a dead horse:
some stuff you'd have read if you were paying attention to the previous page

[JPolen01]

fap away
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[JPolen01]

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[G.Irish]

Interview with guy behind F-16 about why the F-35 is a terrible aircraft that is doomed to failure:

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God I hope they cut this program short and actually start developing something non-idiotic.

[V1GiLaNtE]

hhnnnggggggg hock:

[RawrImAMonster]

Interview with guy behind F-16 about why the F-35 is a terrible aircraft that is doomed to failure:

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God I hope they cut this program short and actually start developing something non-idiotic.

I'm not sure if it's mentioned in that video because I can't watch it at work, but they've spent 400 billion on that plane so far. AKA enough money to give every homeless person in America a $600,000 mansion (not that that would be a good idea). The point is that money could have been put toward so many better uses.

[G.Irish]

Yeah the amount of money spent on that albatross is hideous. We could fix a bunch of our aging infrastructure, invest in science projects, and probably have a lot of money left over to reduce national debt. It'd be one thing if at the end of all this the F-35 could actually do all that it was originally supposed to do. But at the moment it looks like it will be an underperformer in addition to being insanely over budget.

By contrast, the Textron Scorpion is a light attack jet that was designed and constructed in 2 years and will only cost $20 million a piece. They just unveiled it at the Farnborough Air Show. It's more of an aircraft for nations with much small budgets and modest needs but at least it will actually do what it's supposed to do. My thought is that something that is much simpler and cheaper could at least fill the USMC role. Make it a jump jet if you must, but leave all the stealth and common airframe bullshit out and you might end up with something decent.

Also, at $20 million per unit, when I'm an evil rich guy I could afford to outfit my own private airforce with these.

[WRXtranceformed]

If all of that money was invested in drones instead, we would have Skynet by now

[G.Irish]

If all of that money was invested in drones instead, we would have Skynet by now

Yeah!...wait a minute...

The crazy thing about drones is that if you don't develop them, some other country will and will resolutely kick your ass. But the moment you make drones that can turn harder and go faster than manned aircraft and put some AI on them...

Realistically though, the big threat is gonna be an aggressor hacking our super drones and fucking our shit up.

[CaptainHenreh]

If all of that money was invested in drones instead, we would have Skynet by now

Yeah!...wait a minute...

The crazy thing about drones is that if you don't develop them, some other country will and will resolutely kick your ass. But the moment you make drones that can turn harder and go faster than manned aircraft and put some AI on them...

Realistically though, the big threat is gonna be an aggressor hacking our super drones and fucking our shit up.

I was actually having this discussion yesterday. I've come to the conclusion that this whole F35 bullshit (did you hear about the "second engine option" that got cut to "save money", BITCH CUT THE WHOLE THING) is some kind of black-ops "1000 dolla toilet seat" coverup for a fast attack/CAS/Bomb truck set of drones.

It's the ultimate solution for our CAS problem. No more A-10, the F35 sucks balls at the task...something Textron Scorpion sized remote control would be perfect. Long loiter time, cheap running costs, lots of bombs to carry and no pilot to lose.

I mean...ugh. If we have a fast, powerful, stealthy interceptor (which we do)...I feel like we need bomb trucks and CAS planes. Are we really gonna get in a air superiority war with a peer? One that DOESN'T end in a nuke exchange? :dunno:

[CaptainHenreh]

RIP, Unnamed Pilot of the 104th's F-15C that went down in the GW National Forest on Wednesday.

Sir, I hope these Virginia hills give you the rest you've earned.

[WRXtranceformed]

Turns out he was pretty decorated, super sad! I wonder what happened that he couldn't eject

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[Steve85]

Those guys fly fast and low through the valley quite often so if something happened, there just wouldn't be time. From what I've heard the valley/mountains mimic the terrain of some of the middle-east countries. Similar enough that it makes for good training ground. I hear them almost every time I play golf at Bryce.

True courage to fly like that.

[CaptainHenreh]

Those guys fly fast and low through the valley quite often so if something happened, there just wouldn't be time.

While that's true, in this case, the pilot reported an emergency, and this was a "routine" transport flight to NOLA to get a radar upgrade. If I had to guess, I'd say he "rode it in" to reliably keep the bird away from civilization, then didn't have time to eject.

[JPolen01]

Blue Angels fly by destroys beach day :lol:

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[WRXtranceformed]

Blue Angels fly by destroys beach day :lol:

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That would be the best beach day ever!!!! I love it when I catch some of the F-16 doing coast patrols at the Outer Banks