2011 Evo X GSR

[ScottyB]

3. I don't think i've ever had that many Hondas try to egg me on before. Ever. What is it with that?

get used to it :lol:

Thinking about trying to do a SRI like i did on the Ralliart, or get really crafty and try to make my own CAI, Joey i believe you did something similar?

maybe some DSM freaks can chime in, but i'd imagine the stock setup is probably really good already. i have a feeling all you'd gain is more noise.

[kcook]

Please dont put a DIY intake on your $40k car...

Also, get used to the ricers trying to race/egg you on, happens to me all the time. (Edit : Scott beat me to it)

[Ken]

Ugh, i just really don't have/ want to spend the $500 for a damn SRI/CAI. That's ridiculous.

I mean I had some with the Ralliart, but yeesh.

[D_Eclipse9916]

Ugh, i just really don't have/ want to spend the $500 for a damn SRI/CAI. That's ridiculous.

I mean I had some with the Ralliart, but yeesh.

Nothing wrong with a DIY Intake if you do it right, but a DIY intake done right isnt a DIY intake :lol:

What I mean...

I had a custom one made up for my old DSM that I never used. Looked awesome. Buy 2 mandrel bent Aluminum 180' U pipes in the intake diameter you want. Mock, measure, measure again, measure AGAIN, and then cut. Have it welded up by a professional, powdercoat, and get a good intake filter.

$500 for an intake on a turbo car? F that. I would leave it stock for that.

[Goodspeed]

$500 for an intake on a turbo car? F that. I would leave it stock for that.

Yeah, thats pretty ridiculous. I would have to think that over time cheaper options will become available. I would imagine a performance downpipe for that price or less would give much bigger gains...

[JustinG]

you'd probably see more gains from a better filter, exhaust and a tune. From what ive read you cant just throw things at these cars like you could the EVO 8-9 or DSMs, you install an intake and exhaust on this, your going to need to tune the ECU.

[JPolen01]

I saw a project car article in Modified Magazine (?) with one of the hatchback lancers and they did just a simple filter upgrade as Justin said and saw gains, although minimal. I would try out a performance filter first. Where did you see a $500 intake? For reference, the Cobb intake system is only $150 and promises uber power upgrades from stock. <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.cobbtuning.com/products/?id=4209">http://www.cobbtuning.com/products/?id=4209</a><!-- m -->

[D_Eclipse9916]

I saw a project car article in Modified Magazine (?) with one of the hatchback lancers and they did just a simple filter upgrade as Justin said and saw gains, although minimal. I would try out a performance filter first. Where did you see a $500 intake? For reference, the Cobb intake system is only $150 and promises uber power upgrades from stock. <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.cobbtuning.com/products/?id=4209">http://www.cobbtuning.com/products/?id=4209</a><!-- m -->

Thats not a full intake system, just a filter and "maf connector".

[JPolen01]

Yeah I probably shouldn't have said "system" but that's what Cobb calls it. Realistically it would be a good start instead of a full intake.

[Ken]

Yeah, that looks like almost exactly what i would be doing with the filter i already have.

[RPWIII]

Hey man just came across this thread (haven't been on in a while), nice pick up!

I love my Evo 10. I was in the same boat as you when I got this car. This was my first manual so I pretty much learned during the test drive. The gears are extremely notchy, everyone complains about the gears in the GSR. I'm used to it now. Gonna invest in a TWM short shifter with all the bushings and new fluids so that should help a little. The worst part is when the car is cold and sometimes it can be impossible to put it in Reverse or even first sometimes. I haven't had that problem thankfully, but sometimes its tough (still possible) for me to engage the gears when the car is cold. But I've surprisingly heard of people not even being able to engage the gears at all. Very strange

As far as hills, I pretty much use the ebrake to help me out cause people always seem to pull up right on my butt. Don't wanna risk even rolling back a few centimeters sometimes because I feel peoples front ends r literally in my back seat (that sounds weird).

Nice pick up though and your gonna enjoy it. I love driving mine everyday. As far as intakes, your not looking at $500, it's cheaper than that for a nice intake set up unless your looking to go AMS.

And get used to people trying to race you. Happens almost every time I make a decently long trip somewhere.

O, and as far as going wingless. You can remove the factory spoiler and get the holes filled by a body shop and painted for a decent price. I personally like the wing on mine, but I do like the wingless look too. I have a friend who removed his factory spoiler and got the holes filled and painted and it looks really good. And i met someone else who just got something to plug the holes with and it doesn't look too good. Looks tacky. I would suggest taking your trunk to a body shop to get it professionally done rather than just plugging the holes if your looking to go wingless. Just my opinion. The Do luck is too much money in my opinion but it does look really good

Congrats again on the purchase and I'll try to keep checking this thread for updates. Enjoy the car man. I still havent gotten the chance to drive mine in the snow because there hasnt really been much in Northern VA or here in Harrisonburg. Hopefully soon I will though.

-Bobby

[RawrImAMonster]

Hey man just came across this thread (haven't been on in a while), nice pick up!

I love my Evo 10. I was in the same boat as you when I got this car. This was my first manual so I pretty much learned during the test drive. The gears are extremely notchy, everyone complains about the gears in the GSR. I'm used to it now. Gonna invest in a TWM short shifter with all the bushings and new fluids so that should help a little. The worst part is when the car is cold and sometimes it can be impossible to put it in Reverse or even first sometimes. I haven't had that problem thankfully, but sometimes its tough (still possible) for me to engage the gears when the car is cold. But I've surprisingly heard of people not even being able to engage the gears at all. Very strange

As far as hills, I pretty much use the ebrake to help me out cause people always seem to pull up right on my butt. Don't wanna risk even rolling back a few centimeters sometimes because I feel peoples front ends r literally in my back seat (that sounds weird).

Nice pick up though and your gonna enjoy it. I love driving mine everyday. As far as intakes, your not looking at $500, it's cheaper than that for a nice intake set up unless your looking to go AMS.

And get used to people trying to race you. Happens almost every time I make a decently long trip somewhere.

O, and as far as going wingless. You can remove the factory spoiler and get the holes filled by a body shop and painted for a decent price. I personally like the wing on mine, but I do like the wingless look too. I have a friend who removed his factory spoiler and got the holes filled and painted and it looks really good. And i met someone else who just got something to plug the holes with and it doesn't look too good. Looks tacky. I would suggest taking your trunk to a body shop to get it professionally done rather than just plugging the holes if your looking to go wingless. Just my opinion. The Do luck is too much money in my opinion but it does look really good

Congrats again on the purchase and I'll try to keep checking this thread for updates. Enjoy the car man. I still havent gotten the chance to drive mine in the snow because there hasnt really been much in Northern VA or here in Harrisonburg. Hopefully soon I will though.

-Bobby

Just be glad you all don't have the giant spoiler like the evo 8/9's. The evo 10 is a little more inconspicuous. I can barely drive the 3 miles from my apartment to work without having someone rev or do a fly by.

[RPWIII]

^ Haha this is true. We still have a large wing but I agree, it is more inconspicuous than the 8/9. Still get our fair amount of revs and fly bys though

[Jake]

The worst part is when the car is cold and sometimes it can be impossible to put it in Reverse or even first sometimes. I haven't had that problem thankfully, but sometimes its tough (still possible) for me to engage the gears when the car is cold.

Trans fluid can affect this a lot (I think I mentioned this earlier in the thread)... may be worth trying a different fluid. I have to double-clutch the Miata up and down each gear when it's winter-temps outside. And that's with good fluid in the trans.

[Ken]

Yeah, that sumbitch just does not like going into reverse when it's cold out.

I haven't done too much research into intakes, where else can they be had aside from AMS?

[RPWIII]

The worst part is when the car is cold and sometimes it can be impossible to put it in Reverse or even first sometimes. I haven't had that problem thankfully, but sometimes its tough (still possible) for me to engage the gears when the car is cold.

Trans fluid can affect this a lot (I think I mentioned this earlier in the thread)... may be worth trying a different fluid. I have to double-clutch the Miata up and down each gear when it's winter-temps outside. And that's with good fluid in the trans.

Yeah i saw you mentioned it before and yeah the trans fluid will definitely help. I just need to do it... I procrastinate with everything. It hasn't been too much of a bother to me which is why I haven't taken care of it already. Sometimes I feel like when I get in the car and the gears don't engage right away it wakes me up a little more and makes me be more attentive..

[RPWIII]

Yeah, that sumbitch just does not like going into reverse when it's cold out.

I haven't done too much research into intakes, where else can they be had aside from AMS?

A lot of companies make intakes for the 10. Just depends what your looking for; short ram, cold air, stock box w/ performance filter, etc. I have the Injen intake and upper intercooler piping on mine and like it. Came on the car when I bought it so can't complain. Other companies that make intakes for the 10 are: ETS, Cobb, AEM, Burschur, Fujita, Greddy, HKS, K&N, Ultimate Racing, and some others. Those are what I can think of off the top of my head. I would have to say AMS and ETS are the most commonly sought after from what I've seen. But AMS is probably the most expensive as well.

[Ken]

Okay, so i decided this weekend to tackle the intake. As mentioned before there is some arguments about whether or not you should be tuned for an intake. From what i read intakes cause the car to run a little leaner but considering that, like the ralliart, the car runs obnoxiously rich from stock (the ralliart as some can attest from 33W drives, would spit out black smoke if i punched it, this car does the same), it wouldn't be an issue.

Took all of about 15 minutes to disassemble the stock airbox; hardest part was actually trying to get those damn plastic screws Mitsubishi is so fond of off. Finally i figured out that by undoing the bolts connecting the MAF housing to the back of airbox i can remove the filter and the back end will come out. I also disconnected the ground to the battery, as i read that the people who had done so swore it ran smoother that why. I figured it couldn't hurt either way so i just did it.

So i attached the cone filter I had, reattached the battery and started her up. No issues at idle and first drives have gone well. Obviously you can hear the difference and the butt dyno tells me that it pulls a hair harder in the upper RPMs. The Cobb intake linked to before claims an additional 21HP and 24TQ with theirs, and as you can see below mine is fairly similar. Obviously those numbers are marketing claims, but still it's something i suppose.


Cobb intake



My intake, sorry for the crap quality.

I decided to retain the stock air intake snorkel and front half of the stock airbox to try and bring in some air straight to the filter. Not sure how much it actually will do but i know a bunch of the aftermarket intakes do retain it.

Plan from here is this weekend to try and tackle some form of a heat shield to prevent the A/C fan from blow air onto the filter in the summer. Open to any suggestions on how to do so.

[ScottyB]

I also disconnected the ground to the battery, as i read that the people who had done so swore it ran smoother that why. I figured it couldn't hurt either way so i just did it.

the reason it will run smoother is that by disconnecting the battery you're resetting all the ECU's "learned" parameters. instead of it being started up and the car freaking out because now the airflow is completely different than last time it was running, by disconnecting the battery you are "wiping" its memory and it will automatically learn to accomodate the new intake from the start as it adjusts itself to get back to normal driving algorithms.

this is nothing out of the ordinary for OBDII cars with sophisticated ECU's and high sensor resolution. you should reset the ECU by disconnecting the battery any time you make a change to the engine hardware, tuned or not.

[D_Eclipse9916]

I also disconnected the ground to the battery, as i read that the people who had done so swore it ran smoother that why. I figured it couldn't hurt either way so i just did it.

the reason it will run smoother is that by disconnecting the battery you're resetting all the ECU's "learned" parameters. instead of it being started up and the car freaking out because now the airflow is completely different than last time it was running, by disconnecting the battery you are "wiping" its memory and it will automatically learn to accomodate the new intake from the start as it adjusts itself to get back to normal driving algorithms.

this is nothing out of the ordinary for OBDII cars with sophisticated ECU's and high sensor resolution. you should reset the ECU by disconnecting the battery any time you make a change to the engine hardware, tuned or not.

It resets Long Term Fuel trims in the ECU's memory. It actually causes it to run a bit wacky the first few minutes especially as Short Term Fuel trims have to wait to go to Closed Loop Mode to learn Long Term Fuel Trims (LTFT). This is why the farther and farther you mod from stock, the harder it is for the ECU at first to learn as there is a limit how much the Short Trim Fuel Trims (in the dsm ECU it was 12.5% swing) can move, but once stored into LTFT, the STFT can now move the +-12.5% based on the next LTFT adjustments.