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#41
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G.Irish Wrote:I don't think those two cars compete for the same buyer though.

I think the Mustangs new styling will change this. I mean, its already growing on me as a "would drive" and I've never said that about a Mustang before. BMW still has the edge tho...

Oh and the M3/M4 are aesthetically beautiful. Specifically, the front. I just really hope they give it a loud exhaust cause the M5 was disappointing.

Cosmetics aren't going to overcome a $40k price gap. Someone in the market for an $80k M3 is going to cross shop C63s, Cayman Ss, S4s, etc, not American mullet mobiles.
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#42
fiveoh2go Wrote:And then there is that flat plane cranked, direct injection equipped, N/A, 9K-ish redline sporting, 6.2 liter V8 monster that's supposedly lurking in the shadows around Dearborn, that no one at Ford wants to admit to its existence.

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#43
Can we all agree that Phoenix Yellow is a horrid color and BMW should never bring it back, let alone use it in press photos?
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#44
I noticed that it looks like the new mustang doesn't have brembos in the back, again. On the old model they couldn't because of it having a live rear axle, but now they have no excuse. For some reason, it really annoys me not to have matching brakes.
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#45
SlimKlim Wrote:Cosmetics aren't going to overcome a $40k price gap.

Oh yeah...money is a thing. Whoops :roll:
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#46
D_Eclipse9916 Wrote:
G.Irish Wrote:
D_Eclipse9916 Wrote:I give a big "meh" to the new bmw M3/M4. They are "AMG"ing all of their product line. They can keep it.
How so? What does AMGing it mean?

Heavy, numb steering (a complaint by many magazines on the new 3 series, a BMW SPECIALTY), make it technology laden and expensive. Oh good, I get to go to the dealer to have my battery reflashed to my ecu for $350.

Good luck getting one out the door for less than $75k. It has never been a cheap car but nor has it ever even been close to 911 territory.

Edit: and oh yeah, it is hideous. Hope it looks better in person.
Yeah BMW has been going backwards on steering feel with the most recent cars from what I hear. I haven't driven any of the current gen bimmers though (not in the market) so I can't really say for myself.

As for the increasing luxo electro fuckwaddery, BMW's been going down that road for a long time, at least since the E36 days. Luxury customers always want the car to do more stuff for them and every luxury car maker obliges. At least the 3 series and M3 got lighter for a change.
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#47
I'm thrilled enough that it's down in weight!

At the moment, I can't look past the square type things in the lower corners of the rear bumpers housing the reflectors. Other than that...looks good but not great - though I bet it has a lot of presence in person and will be totally different.
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#48
200+ in a C7, lovely

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Aston Martin and Daimler ink the deal to supply AMG motors and more to Aston. Could see AMG products in Astons in 2-3 years.
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#50
Huracan 610-4

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Looks good, but looks a bit slab-sided to me, not sure if I'm going to like this one in person. Right now I can't say I like it more than the Gallardo.
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#51
Rock me like a Huracan
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#52
I like it way better than the gallardo. The gallardo was always a bit plain for me, speaking relatively to lamborghinis of course. Lambos are supposed to be a little crazy visually.
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#53
People are whining that the new one isn't ugly enough to be a real lambo, but I love it. I was never a fan of the gallardo and would've taken the R8 over it all day everyday, but this, mmmmm, this I can fap to.
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#54
It's a baby aventador, what's not to love?
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#55
I've either seen bitching that it looks too much like the Aventador or that it's too smooth and curvy and looks like a Ferrari. I think they're all blind if they don't think that's like the sexiest shit ever.
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#57
SlimKlim Wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHBZX7ZAW...e=youtu.be

I lost interest when they said sedan only....[CRYING FACE]

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#58
SlimKlim Wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHBZX7ZAW...e=youtu.be

6:12 "The transmission"
Ok, you can get a CVT or manual. Hey, if I had to have an auto, CVT is pretty cool.
BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE
You can put it in a sport mode that makes it act like an 8-spd and it shifts super fast! The guy is all excited.
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I bet that's slower than the regular CVT mode.
Why would a buyer of an automatic car want it to pretend like it's shifting, something the buyer clearly doesn't care about. :dunno: Let the CVT be awesome and keep the engine boiling in sport mode, but don't "shift". :vomit:
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#59
BLINGMW Wrote:Why would a buyer of an automatic car want it to pretend like it's shifting, something the buyer clearly doesn't care about.

Sad I like my pretend shifting.

But yeah, I agree. I still don't understand the appeal of the CVT, I get the whole holding it in the sweet spot thing but it doesn't seem like it would be nearly as satisfying, I also don't like the lack of subaru warble. It does seem like a really nice car to drive and a big performance improvement on the last generation. I don't want one, but it seems nice.
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#60
No wagon = no care.
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