02-28-2018, 11:59 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-28-2018, 11:59 PM by ViPER1313.)
Supras are cool and all, but there are 100 other cars I would rather have at a 6 figure price point. Would you rather have a 20 year old 300hp Toyota or save $15k and get this?
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Why do people just post what they are thinking? Without thinking.
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If everyone bought cars based on numbers on the spec sheet, we'd all be driving Toyota Echos.
In all actuality, we're all angry about it because it means we'll never be able to have one, not that you don't think it's worth it.
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No one spending 100k+ on these is cross shopping anything else...it's a given that you'll easily get more performance for your $ with something else; these are collectors or hardcore fans who are target focused on getting the best examples.
If this sells it'll probably be somewhere around the 10th 100k+ sale in the last 2 years.
Supras are nowhere near as rare as the 2000gt, but have you seen where prices on those are going? Jay Lenno had one on his show that appraised for over a million dollars. I don't think the supra will get anywhere near that in the immediate future, but they are going up and up. Anyone buying a supra at this point knows that and is not price shopping a used 911. Hell they probably won't even drive the supra much. It's more of an investment at this point.
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I just don’t get why they are seen as such an investment worthy car. They are not particularly rare or old.
Why do people just post what they are thinking? Without thinking.
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(03-01-2018, 10:40 AM)ViPER1313 Wrote: I just don’t get why they are seen as such an investment worthy car. They are not particularly rare or old.
The collector car market begs to differ.
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(03-01-2018, 10:40 AM)ViPER1313 Wrote: I just don’t get why they are seen as such an investment worthy car. They are not particularly rare or old.
The market is fickle.
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
03-01-2018, 10:54 AM
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(03-01-2018, 10:40 AM)ViPER1313 Wrote: I just don’t get why they are seen as such an investment worthy car. They are not particularly rare or old.
Well, for age, they're 20-25 years old now here in the states, so just now beginning to enter "official" classic/antique status - and we saw what happened to 70's muscle cars (especially rare packages/options) in the 90's/early 00's price wise. To draw a parallel, those muscle cars will ebb and flow in price as the target collector audience shifts & ages out, but if anything, we're just getting started with 90's Japanese iron as the aspirational Gran Turismo playing/F&F watching youth gain wealth in their 30's & 40's today & in the years ahead.
For rarity, talking the Supra in the US in particular (production numbers vary depending on source), there were about 11,500 sold from '93 to '98. Roughly 4,200 of them were TT 6-speeds. So, fairly rare - especially when you factor in finding one that isn't hacked up. That particular combo in the eBay ad is roughly 1 of ~10.
Then, there's the whole mystique/performance legend/king of the imports nostalgia that affected & continues to affect the aforementioned target age group vying for these cars. It's not *all* pent up hype either, the car stands on it's own - any road test from C&D, R&T, Motor Trend etc. back in day backs up its cred as a 90's crusher. It makes sense.
(03-01-2018, 10:54 AM)Goodspeed Wrote: (03-01-2018, 10:40 AM)ViPER1313 Wrote: I just don’t get why they are seen as such an investment worthy car. They are not particularly rare or old.
Well, for age, they're 20-25 years old now here in the states, so just now beginning to enter "official" classic/antique status - and we saw what happened to 70's muscle cars (especially rare packages/options) in the 90's/early 00's price wise. To draw a parallel, those muscle cars will ebb and flow in price as the target collector audience shifts & ages out, but if anything, we're just getting started with 90's Japanese iron as the aspirational Gran Turismo playing/F&F watching youth gain wealth in their 30's & 40's today & in the years ahead.
For rarity, talking the Supra in the US in particular (production numbers vary depending on source), there were about 11,500 sold from '93 to '98. Roughly 4,200 of them were TT 6-speeds. So, fairly rare - especially when you factor in finding one that isn't hacked up. That particular combo in the eBay ad is roughly 1 of ~10.
Then, there's the whole mystique/performance legend/king of the imports nostalgia that affected & continues to affect the aforementioned target age group vying for these cars. It's not *all* pent up hype either, the car stands on it's own - any road test from C&D, R&T, Motor Trend etc. back in day backs up its cred as a 90's crusher. It makes sense.
I don't doubt why new money gen-X'ers are buying these, the Supra is a great car. But $100,000 buys you a LOT of ACTUAL classic car, completely restored or resto-modded take your pick. If I'm truly looking at it as an investment, I'd hang my hat on classic American muscle before I would any Japanese car.
If you're super rich and have a hard-on for adding a low mileage Supra to your collection it's your money dudebro. I would call out one of my friends if they were doing it though~
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03-05-2018, 03:49 PM
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(03-01-2018, 08:38 AM)JPolen01 Wrote: Supras are nowhere near as rare as the 2000gt, but have you seen where prices on those are going? Jay Lenno had one on his show that appraised for over a million dollars. I don't think the supra will get anywhere near that in the immediate future, but they are going up and up. Anyone buying a supra at this point knows that and is not price shopping a used 911. Hell they probably won't even drive the supra much. It's more of an investment at this point. There were 351 2000GTs made. Worldwide. Not even worth mentioning in the same conversation as a Supra.
I dont get the Supra thing either, but plenty of people do, so more power to them.
The guy that won the powerball last year said his first purchase would be a 90s NSX. So yeah, nostalgia is powerful.
Who wants an $80,000 E30 with doors controlled by belts?
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YES. i would absolutely love to get my hands on a GMC Sierra Grande K10 from that era like the stunt truck they used in the old show "The Fall Guy". that truck is 100% pure cool. these models will be the next bubble i think, a lot like the IROCs are starting to double in price now that the only examples left are either junk or collectibles.
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