Pretty sharp looking car. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't interested... Anyone drive one? I can't see 263hp/280ft-lbs getting to the ground nicely via the front wheels only.
Anyone drive one yet? Thoughts?
I Am Mike
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2 wheels: '12 Surly Cross-Check Custom | '14 Trek Madone 2.1 105 | '17 Norco Threshold SL Force 1 | '17 Norco Revolver 9.2 FS | '18 BMC Roadmachine 02 Two | '19 Norco Search XR Steel (Formerly '97 Honda VFR750F, '05 Giant TCR 2, '15 WeThePeople Atlas 24, '10 Scott Scale 29er XT, '11 Cervelo R3 Rival, '12 Ridley X-Fire Red)
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I haven't driven one so I can't offer any advice there.
It was amusing to see people look at the sticker price this past weekend though. $25k for that car!? No way I'm payin' that! They clearly didn't get that it wasn't just a regular ole 3 so it's safe to say that it's a true sleeper... assuming the wheels stay on the pavement.
IMO, it would stay connected enough to matter. I mean it's likely you could spin the wheels if you wanted but it's not like you're going for the best quarter mile times on the way to work. For a DD, power is used more often while you're already moving and I'm guessing it would work well there.
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"Here, at last, is the cure for texting while driving. The millions of deaths which occur every year due to the iPhone’s ability to stream the Kim K/Ray-J video in 4G could all be avoided, every last one of them, if the government issued everyone a Seventies 911 and made sure they always left the house five minutes later than they’d wanted to. It would help if it could be made to rain as well. Full attention on the road. Guaranteed." -Jack Baruth
All the reviews I've read said they were very skeptical of the traction and torque steer, but those doubts were gone after a drive. 3200lbs? Ick.
I'm really in no mood or financial situation to be getting a new car, but I may stop by to drive one this weekend. Still need to build more equity in the S before I grab something new (depreciation only slowed about 6 months ago). Maybe by that time they'll have an AWD model out.
I Am Mike
4 wheels: '01 RAV4 (Formerly '93 Civic CX, '01 S2000, '10 GTI, '09 A4 Avant)
2 wheels: '12 Surly Cross-Check Custom | '14 Trek Madone 2.1 105 | '17 Norco Threshold SL Force 1 | '17 Norco Revolver 9.2 FS | '18 BMC Roadmachine 02 Two | '19 Norco Search XR Steel (Formerly '97 Honda VFR750F, '05 Giant TCR 2, '15 WeThePeople Atlas 24, '10 Scott Scale 29er XT, '11 Cervelo R3 Rival, '12 Ridley X-Fire Red)
No longer onyachin.
its pretty funny that when a honda fwd product puts out over 250hp all the fanbois say its the shizzle dizzle (TL, Accord V6, etc) , when its another car it suxorz cuz it will just light up the tires.
I just think they all sux0rz :lol:
Evan Wrote:its pretty funny that when a honda fwd product puts out over 250hp all the fanbois say its the shizzle dizzle (TL, Accord V6, etc)
do they? i don't think they do.
I Am Mike
4 wheels: '01 RAV4 (Formerly '93 Civic CX, '01 S2000, '10 GTI, '09 A4 Avant)
2 wheels: '12 Surly Cross-Check Custom | '14 Trek Madone 2.1 105 | '17 Norco Threshold SL Force 1 | '17 Norco Revolver 9.2 FS | '18 BMC Roadmachine 02 Two | '19 Norco Search XR Steel (Formerly '97 Honda VFR750F, '05 Giant TCR 2, '15 WeThePeople Atlas 24, '10 Scott Scale 29er XT, '11 Cervelo R3 Rival, '12 Ridley X-Fire Red)
No longer onyachin.
I want one too. I'm going with you when you test drive it.
250hp FWD Honda's can't spin their wheels because they don't make any power 'til a billion rpms.
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I've never been quite able to figure this out either - isnt it easier to light up the tires of a RWD car with taht same power anyway? I mean - theres usually less weight over the rear wheels, no?
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HAULN-SS Wrote:I've never been quite able to figure this out either - isnt it easier to light up the tires of a RWD car with taht same power anyway? I mean - theres usually less weight over the rear wheels, no?
weight transfer hates FWD cars.
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oh yeah. guess I didnt think about what happens when it actually starts to move
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Mike Wrote:3200lbs? Ick.
Welcome to the world of real-weight cars. 
I'm guessing they'll never put AWD in the MS3 because it would be too similar to the MS6. Obviously the looks are different but I think they want to keep the MS6 relatively untouchable and a fairly similar hatch for less money won't do that.
'76 911S | '14 328xi | '17 GTI | In memoriam: '08 848, '85 944
"Here, at last, is the cure for texting while driving. The millions of deaths which occur every year due to the iPhone’s ability to stream the Kim K/Ray-J video in 4G could all be avoided, every last one of them, if the government issued everyone a Seventies 911 and made sure they always left the house five minutes later than they’d wanted to. It would help if it could be made to rain as well. Full attention on the road. Guaranteed." -Jack Baruth
iono - i hate my 3.
if no for power reasons, for just interior cheapness.
luxury for life.
-Paul
"If you can't dazzle em with brilliance, baffle em with bullshit"
funniest thing i heard, talking to a mazda dealer when my g/f bought her CX7,
Me- so do you have any MS3s on the lot??
Salesman- No but have you read the reviews??
Me- yea im curious as to how well they will put down the power
Salesman- Well, it will put it down pretty well, we like to call it an EVO/STi Killer
Me- *Holding back laughter* Oh really? Sounds good.
If it's anything like the ms6, I would pass.
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.paul Wrote:iono - i hate my 3
Why?
I've driven the 3's and the 6's and both seem like pretty good buys for what they cost.
Wont coddle your ass like a BMW/Audi, but will be cheaper to own/insure and make for good, reliable everyday cars.
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
oh and the tranny on the 3's suck monkey balls
-Paul
"If you can't dazzle em with brilliance, baffle em with bullshit"
.paul Wrote:oh and the tranny on the 3's suck monkey balls
Did you even go to another dealer yet?
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
yeah, i got it fixed at browns - and the guy that worked there (from .net) was like this is common like in the RSX's
-Paul
"If you can't dazzle em with brilliance, baffle em with bullshit"
Apoc Wrote:I'm guessing they'll never put AWD in the MS3 because it would be too similar to the MS6.
i agree. they'll want buyers looking up to the premium priced MS6. but then again you have brands like audi who have the S3 (AWD'd A3) and vw with the R32 golf...of course their brand structure is also way different.
what else is the 3 platform used in? maybe it costs too much to modify it for AWD for a limited run of niche vehicles.
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FWIW, I actually really like the wife's 3. It's a nice car for the price and constantly impresses me considering what it cost.
'76 911S | '14 328xi | '17 GTI | In memoriam: '08 848, '85 944
"Here, at last, is the cure for texting while driving. The millions of deaths which occur every year due to the iPhone’s ability to stream the Kim K/Ray-J video in 4G could all be avoided, every last one of them, if the government issued everyone a Seventies 911 and made sure they always left the house five minutes later than they’d wanted to. It would help if it could be made to rain as well. Full attention on the road. Guaranteed." -Jack Baruth
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