Budget 20k (so 22-23k I bet).
He is looking at driving experience, fitting two car seats and having the cargo space to fit them, and then doesn't want to spend too much on maintenance but if he finds the right car he will deal with the German tax.
He likes the idea of at least Nav/Bluetooth. Other than that he is pretty open to anything.
Crossover/Wagon. Wife will mostly be driving it. Had an MDX previously and liked it. One kid and adding one more.
Was looking at CX5, Outback, RDX (what years had problems?)
Wagon's: 535xi (He is worried about maintenance cost), TSX
What else is out there? He isn't looking for terrible decisions. Just trying to help him out.
Edit: He mentioned he has participated in 24 hours lemons for at least 4 season and has swapped whole engines/transmissions so he can do almost all maintenance just doesn't want to have terrible maintenance issues a lot.
Editx2: Wow. I did not know or expect this but this is the guy that bought Garrett's Miata which was Jake's which was whoever else's... Just started talking to him about his cars and such. Works at Capital One...
I asked him if he knew MM due to the Lemons racing at Summit and VIR. He said yes and mentioned buying some 95 black miata a few years back. I asked if it was Scott K. He said no. Then I mentioned Garrett and was like yup.
CX-5 is the no brainer.
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I say this basically every time a thread like this is posted, but you're describing a GTI.
CPO MK7
Within Budget - Check
Driving Experience - Check
Can Baby - Check
Available with Nav - Check
Crossover/Wagon - Close enough
German Tax - It still has a warranty, buy now worry later
Disadvantage - It's german.
Advantage - None of the cars you listed would actually be fun to drive. An Outback? GTFO.
Now: 07 Porsche Cayman S | 18 VW Tiguan
Then: 18 VW GTI Autobahn | 95 BMW M3 | 15 VW GTI SE | 12 Kia Optima SX | 2009 VW GTI | 00 BMW 540i Sport | 90 Mazda Miata | 94 Yamaha FZR600R | 1993 Suzuki GS500E | 2003 BMW 325i | 95 Saab 900S
SlimKlim Wrote:I say this basically every time a thread like this is posted, but you're describing a GTI.
CPO MK7
Can Baby - Check
Can baby two seats and have room for other items/gear?
sounds like he needs a manvan
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Also, joey, don't take this the wrong way but if you think a GTI can accomodate 2 kids worth of shit you are out of your fucking mind.
1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass 442
2014/2015 CX-9 , since we are all throwing out what we bought to solve this problem 
Why do people just post what they are thinking? Without thinking.
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ViPER1313 Wrote:2014/2015 CX-9 , since we are all throwing out what we bought to solve this problem
That would work too.
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JPolen01 Wrote:CX-5 is the no brainer.
This.
2019 Mazda CX-5 (TURBAH)
(X)2016.5 Mazda CX-5
(X)2010 GTI
(x)2011 Lancer Evolution GSR
(x)2009 Lancer Ralliart
(x)2006 Acura RSX
2007 GMC Sierra crew cab long bed. You won't run out of space...
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2009 Z06
1986.5 Porsche 928S
CX5 or CX9 if he needs more space make sense to me based on his requirements
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rherold9 Wrote:He is looking at driving experience.
JPolen01 Wrote:CX-5 is the no brainer.
davej Wrote:sounds like he needs a manvan
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CaptainHenreh Wrote:Also, joey, don't take this the wrong way but if you think a GTI can accomodate 2 kids worth of shit you are out of your fucking mind.
FWIW I grew up in a MKIII TDI. But I don't know about life with kids. Don't want to know about it. Don't care about it. Y'all do your thing in here. Klimchuk out.
Now: 07 Porsche Cayman S | 18 VW Tiguan
Then: 18 VW GTI Autobahn | 95 BMW M3 | 15 VW GTI SE | 12 Kia Optima SX | 2009 VW GTI | 00 BMW 540i Sport | 90 Mazda Miata | 94 Yamaha FZR600R | 1993 Suzuki GS500E | 2003 BMW 325i | 95 Saab 900S
CaptainHenreh Wrote:Also, joey, don't take this the wrong way but if you think a GTI can accomodate 2 kids worth of shit you are out of your fucking mind.
Yeah, 1-kid no problem 2-no go.
CX-5 or Flex.
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
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Literally the same conversation any time someone needs a new car. I want fast cheap reliable. You can't have it all. This guy said he needs it for 2 kids and his wife is going to drive it mostly. That means driving experience should be at the bottom of the requirement list. The cx5 gives him everything he wants and u would argue a pretty decent driving experience for a crossover. I really enjoyed driving it for the brief time we had ours and it had plenty of rear leg room and trunk space.
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CX5 is always the answer?
rherold9 Wrote:CX5 is always the answer? I mean that's basically the reason why we bought ours, minus the two car seats because we haven't had the first one yet. The CX5 also has some pretty incredible available safety and convenience tech and it is fun to drive for an SUV
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Hasn't this been answered with like every single car buying thread posted here in the last three years?
Also, a CX-5 is surprisingly shit for car seats. You're probably not getting a rear facing plus another car seat in there. You're definitely not getting an infant seat (they sit more supine) and another car seat in there.
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You've been converted :lol:
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
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