What's comparable to the Azenis?

[Andy]

I was about to place an order for some Falken Azenis with Vulcan tire but they informed me that the size I wanted (225/50/R15) is not available and Falken is no longer planning on making that size. So WTF?

The tires I have now are BFG G-Force Sports. They're good but they overheat really quickly after a few laps.

[Mike]

nothing is as good as the azenis... tires that come in that size that don't suck:

yoko es100 - more of a street tire, will likely overheat
hankook z212 - was supposed to be a close competitor to azenis, but wasn't as good as expected when it came out
kumho mx - had em on the s2000, but didn't feel the grip was on par with how quickly they wore

grassroots did a comparo a while back.. let me try to find it.

maybe consider a treaded r-comp? ao32r or something along those lines? or maybe make the jump to used r-comps?

[Mike]

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[Andy]

Honestly, as much as I would like some R-Comps, it seems a little early in the progression for me. I have at least a few more years of street tires before I will able to maximize r-comps.

Then again, I've seen guys in group 2 on r-comps. So what's the deal? How do you know you're ready for R-comps?

[.RJ]

RA1's are an R-tire but still pretty forgiving, that would be a good choice. Buy a set and have them shaved to 4-5/32".

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[Evan]

r-tires for hpde is pissing money away. any of the tires mikey mentioned are fine

[Mike]

r-tires for hpde is pissing money away.

used ones are cheaper per event.

[Andy]

I think I'm going to look for some nice street tires. It kind of sucks cause it seems like some of the higher performance ones cost more than RA-1's

[white_2kgt]

I think I'm going to look for some nice street tires. It kind of sucks cause it seems like some of the higher performance ones cost more than RA-1's

RA1's for the win, you can run the on the street as well if you want.

[Andy]

I think I'm going to look for some nice street tires. It kind of sucks cause it seems like some of the higher performance ones cost more than RA-1's

RA1's for the win, you can run the on the street as well if you want.

I finally got a hitch for the MR2 so these tires will be trailered to the track so I'm more concerned about not f'ing up my learning curve by jumping to R-comps. Stuff to think about I guess.

[Mike]

you've done enough events that you won't affect your learning.

[white_2kgt]

I think I'm going to look for some nice street tires. It kind of sucks cause it seems like some of the higher performance ones cost more than RA-1's

RA1's for the win, you can run the on the street as well if you want.

I finally got a hitch for the MR2 so these tires will be trailered to the track so I'm more concerned about not f'ing up my learning curve by jumping to R-comps. Stuff to think about I guess.

RA1's are still street tireish, they go away slower than a hoosier and talk more so you'll be fine.

[Ginger]

Chad, sometimes I listen to you talk and could imagine you driving a Legends car...

[Feersty]

Andrew, would Falken Ziex Ze 512 fit the bill?

On the cheap here:

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[Andy]

Andrew, would Falken Ziex Ze 512 fit the bill?

On the cheap here:

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Sorry Feersty. Those are great for the street but not really a track tire. Thanks though.

[Evan]

r-tires for hpde is pissing money away.

used ones are cheaper per event.

not when mounting costs are factored, and considering reliable sources for used tires are not consistent, and you would need rain tires too

[.RJ]

not when mounting costs are factored, and considering reliable sources for used tires are not consistent

I did it for 2 years and it worked out pretty good.... just need to find some place to mount your tires for $10-12/each. Not a huge cost savings over street tires, but running on R-tires is more fun It also helped that I was always using 205/50/15's, which are somewhat easy to get.

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[Mike]

r-tires for hpde is pissing money away.

used ones are cheaper per event.

not when mounting costs are factored, and considering reliable sources for used tires are not consistent, and you would need rain tires too

finding 205-50-15s in decent condition is very much consistent.

[Evan]

considering you havent actually been on track enough to burn up a single set of any condition tires....

[Mike]

good one! you're a winner!