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What's comparable to the Azenis? - Andy - 11-21-2006
I was about to place an order for some Falken Azenis with Vulcan tire but they informed me that the size I wanted (225/50/R15) is not available and Falken is no longer planning on making that size. So WTF?
The tires I have now are BFG G-Force Sports. They're good but they overheat really quickly after a few laps.
- Mike - 11-21-2006
nothing is as good as the azenis... tires that come in that size that don't suck:
yoko es100 - more of a street tire, will likely overheat
hankook z212 - was supposed to be a close competitor to azenis, but wasn't as good as expected when it came out
kumho mx - had em on the s2000, but didn't feel the grip was on par with how quickly they wore
grassroots did a comparo a while back.. let me try to find it.
maybe consider a treaded r-comp? ao32r or something along those lines? or maybe make the jump to used r-comps?
- Mike - 11-21-2006
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- Andy - 11-21-2006
Honestly, as much as I would like some R-Comps, it seems a little early in the progression for me. I have at least a few more years of street tires before I will able to maximize r-comps.
Then again, I've seen guys in group 2 on r-comps. So what's the deal? How do you know you're ready for R-comps?
- .RJ - 11-21-2006
RA1's are an R-tire but still pretty forgiving, that would be a good choice. Buy a set and have them shaved to 4-5/32".
Both Radial tire and <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://philstireservice.com/">http://philstireservice.com/</a><!-- m --> have good prices on toyo.
- Evan - 11-22-2006
r-tires for hpde is pissing money away. any of the tires mikey mentioned are fine
- Mike - 11-22-2006
Evan Wrote:r-tires for hpde is pissing money away.
used ones are cheaper per event.
- Andy - 11-22-2006
I think I'm going to look for some nice street tires. It kind of sucks cause it seems like some of the higher performance ones cost more than RA-1's
- white_2kgt - 11-22-2006
Andy Wrote:I think I'm going to look for some nice street tires. It kind of sucks cause it seems like some of the higher performance ones cost more than RA-1's
RA1's for the win, you can run the on the street as well if you want.
- Andy - 11-22-2006
white_2kgt Wrote:Andy Wrote:I think I'm going to look for some nice street tires. It kind of sucks cause it seems like some of the higher performance ones cost more than RA-1's
RA1's for the win, you can run the on the street as well if you want.
I finally got a hitch for the MR2 so these tires will be trailered to the track so I'm more concerned about not f'ing up my learning curve by jumping to R-comps. Stuff to think about I guess.
- Mike - 11-22-2006
you've done enough events that you won't affect your learning.
- white_2kgt - 11-22-2006
Andy Wrote:white_2kgt Wrote:Andy Wrote:I think I'm going to look for some nice street tires. It kind of sucks cause it seems like some of the higher performance ones cost more than RA-1's
RA1's for the win, you can run the on the street as well if you want.
I finally got a hitch for the MR2 so these tires will be trailered to the track so I'm more concerned about not f'ing up my learning curve by jumping to R-comps. Stuff to think about I guess.
RA1's are still street tireish, they go away slower than a hoosier and talk more so you'll be fine.
- Ginger - 11-22-2006
Chad, sometimes I listen to you talk and could imagine you driving a Legends car...
- Feersty - 11-22-2006
Andrew, would Falken Ziex Ze 512 fit the bill?
On the cheap here:
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- Andy - 11-22-2006
Feersty Wrote:Andrew, would Falken Ziex Ze 512 fit the bill?
On the cheap here:
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Sorry Feersty. Those are great for the street but not really a track tire. Thanks though.
- Evan - 11-23-2006
Mike Wrote:not when mounting costs are factored, and considering reliable sources for used tires are not consistent, and you would need rain tires tooEvan Wrote:r-tires for hpde is pissing money away.
used ones are cheaper per event.
- .RJ - 11-23-2006
Evan Wrote:not when mounting costs are factored, and considering reliable sources for used tires are not consistent
I did it for 2 years and it worked out pretty good.... just need to find some place to mount your tires for $10-12/each. Not a huge cost savings over street tires, but running on R-tires is more fun
It also helped that I was always using 205/50/15's, which are somewhat easy to get.<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://stores.ebay.com/Race-Tires-USDRRT">http://stores.ebay.com/Race-Tires-USDRRT</a><!-- m -->
- Mike - 11-23-2006
Evan Wrote:Mike Wrote:not when mounting costs are factored, and considering reliable sources for used tires are not consistent, and you would need rain tires tooEvan Wrote:r-tires for hpde is pissing money away.
used ones are cheaper per event.
finding 205-50-15s in decent condition is very much consistent.
- Evan - 11-24-2006
considering you havent actually been on track enough to burn up a single set of any condition tires....
- Mike - 11-24-2006
good one! you're a winner!