Hyperfest 2019 - VIRginia International Raceway May 17-29

[DierwulfBL]

edit 2: I still dont see a schedule, it just says to meet at a "tech shed" at 715am saturday? No clue which building that is........

You can't miss the tech shed. It's at the far end of the paddock between timing and scoring and the concession area.

So, this it he only bit of the schedule I can find, shouldnt I also have the times I'll be on track and in the classroom as well? why isnt this posted anywhere? Will it be provided at the tech shed? Seems like this should be solidified by now

it appears to be here, worst website design ive seen in years http://nasaracing.net/wp-content/uploads...sat-v2.pdf

[BrandonBoww]

Super hyped for my first Hyperfest! I am going to be working Friday-Sunday (Grid, maybe with Brandon on pit out again). Also gonna hopefully take part in the Power wheels down hill event. Super stocked to go to VIR again, last time was a blast!

[Kaan]

edit 2: I still dont see a schedule, it just says to meet at a "tech shed" at 715am saturday? No clue which building that is........

You can't miss the tech shed. It's at the far end of the paddock between timing and scoring and the concession area.

So, this it he only bit of the schedule I can find, shouldnt I also have the times I'll be on track and in the classroom as well? why isnt this posted anywhere? Will it be provided at the tech shed? Seems like this should be solidified by now

it appears to be here, worst website design ive seen in years http://nasaracing.net/wp-content/uploads...sat-v2.pdf

that's the right schedule.

its the worst design in years because it hasn't changed since 2002.

[Pinegaaj]

I'll be at Hyperfest as well. Last main thing before Sahm and I hit the road for the summer.

[Senor_Taylor]

So the instructions are a bit unclear about ticketing. Do they have a list of registered drivers or do i need to do their 25 step bullshit in order to get in the gate showing them shit on my smartphone?

edit: it appears you have to jump through their hoops, not really sure why they couldnt just provide a list of people registered to skip this unnecessary step. No wonder there is back ups at the gate, this is ridiculous in this day and age of technology.

edit 2: I still dont see a schedule, it just says to meet at a "tech shed" at 715am saturday? No clue which building that is........

You sure have a lot to complain about

What kind of schedule are you looking for? Most aren't posted 2 weeks in advance. 

Here's a map if you have any confusion on where to go. Your first classroom session will be right around 9, so have your car ready to rock and roll BEFORE then because your session may be less than 15 minutes after classroom ends.

[DierwulfBL]

So the instructions are a bit unclear about ticketing. Do they have a list of registered drivers or do i need to do their 25 step bullshit in order to get in the gate showing them shit on my smartphone?

edit: it appears you have to jump through their hoops, not really sure why they couldnt just provide a list of people registered to skip this unnecessary step. No wonder there is back ups at the gate, this is ridiculous in this day and age of technology.

edit 2: I still dont see a schedule, it just says to meet at a "tech shed" at 715am saturday? No clue which building that is........

You sure have a lot to complain about

What kind of schedule are you looking for? Most aren't posted 2 weeks in advance. 

Here's a map if you have any confusion on where to go. Your first classroom session will be right around 9, so have your car ready to rock and roll BEFORE then because your session may be less than 15 minutes after classroom ends.

If you're not complaining about the things that suck, it'll never get better , it's also my professional job to complain about things on the web. Printing out the XLS sheet for the gate worker would negate the need to hope and pray my cell phone has enough service to pull up the bar code at the gate. Which will be slow as ill have to unhook from the 6pt harnesses and get out of the car to get my cell phone (adding to more gate delays)

Last HPDE at NCCAR I did required no BS and there was only 1 building on premises (directly beside parking/tech) so it was a lot easier to figure out. Thanks for the map! That should help a lot. The map isnt labeled very well though, is the "tech shed" also the "classroom"? or is that the building between patriot course and The Crater?

I work in web technologies (QAE) so if they ever need some help getting their site/process better, someone give them my email, DierwulfBL@gmail.com . A single full stack/FE dev and I could have it looking great in a month at 10hr/wk with ease

[GTBrandon]

So the instructions are a bit unclear about ticketing. Do they have a list of registered drivers or do i need to do their 25 step bullshit in order to get in the gate showing them shit on my smartphone?

edit: it appears you have to jump through their hoops, not really sure why they couldnt just provide a list of people registered to skip this unnecessary step. No wonder there is back ups at the gate, this is ridiculous in this day and age of technology.

edit 2: I still dont see a schedule, it just says to meet at a "tech shed" at 715am saturday? No clue which building that is........

You sure have a lot to complain about

What kind of schedule are you looking for? Most aren't posted 2 weeks in advance. 

Here's a map if you have any confusion on where to go. Your first classroom session will be right around 9, so have your car ready to rock and roll BEFORE then because your session may be less than 15 minutes after classroom ends.

If you're not complaining about the things that suck, it'll never get better , it's also my professional job to complain about things on the web. Printing out the XLS sheet for the gate worker would negate the need to hope and pray my cell phone has enough service to pull up the bar code at the gate. Which will be slow as ill have to unhook from the 6pt harnesses and get out of the car to get my cell phone (adding to more gate delays)

Last HPDE at NCCAR I did required no BS and there was only 1 building on premises (directly beside parking/tech) so it was a lot easier to figure out. Thanks for the map! That should help a lot. The map isnt labeled very well though, is the "tech shed" also the "classroom"? or is that the building between patriot course and The Crater?

I work in web technologies (QAE) so if they ever need some help getting their site/process better, someone give them my email, DierwulfBL@gmail.com . A single full stack/FE dev and I could have it looking great in a month at 10hr/wk with ease

Tech shed is labeled C, just look for the group of literally everyone else walking to it in the morning, truly can’t miss it.

[DierwulfBL]

Yea, I know where the "tech shed" is now, I'm now asking which is the "classroom", is it I, C, H, or other?

[Jewels]

Yea, I know where the "tech shed" is now, I'm now asking which is the "classroom", is it I, C, H, or other?

Its labeled D.  But seriously... once you get there you can ask anyone in the tech shed and they can point to it.  Things don't change much on the track side... even for Hyperfest.

[Jake]

So the instructions are a bit unclear about ticketing. Do they have a list of registered drivers or do i need to do their 25 step bullshit in order to get in the gate showing them shit on my smartphone?

edit: it appears you have to jump through their hoops, not really sure why they couldnt just provide a list of people registered to skip this unnecessary step. No wonder there is back ups at the gate, this is ridiculous in this day and age of technology.

edit 2: I still dont see a schedule, it just says to meet at a "tech shed" at 715am saturday? No clue which building that is........

Hyperfest is a very different event from all other NASA M-A weekends given the sheer volume of people who attend. Getting 400+ drivers checked in alongside spectators (who will number in the thousands) is a big process. The event email, which was sent already, will get you a link to receive your electronic ticket. This can be printed out, or can be accessed via email/added to your iOS Wallet if you use that platform.

Providing a list of people registered to gate staff would be remarkably inefficient when you are talking 10,000+ people to look through to find one name. You mentioned a concern about cell phone signal, it is very strong throughout the property and surrounding roads getting to VIR. I use Sprint and get full LTE signal, that should eliminate those fears. Not sure why you're keeping your phone in the trunk, feel free to use a pocket to help speed things up at the gate, or print the ticket off ahead of time.

The schedules and link to them, as well as a plethora of other information, were sent to you in an email on Saturday, May 4th:



The event has a landing page on the NASA Mid-Atlantic website, and driver list/schedules are linked there as they have been for the last 10 years:

http://nasaracing.net/may-17-19-2019-vir/

The tech shed is in the main (North) paddock, head in to the paddock and hang a right. Big red wooden building that will likely have a lot of track cars funneling through it. The classroom is parallel to the tech shed, closer to the front straight of the track. There should be signage posted as well to help direct you once you are inside the track grounds.

Appreciate the offer to help with web services, there are actually several of us who have been on staff a long time working to improve the general customer experience. It is a very, very slow process as there is coordination required with NASA Nationals in California as well as the M-A leadership, and many people seem resistant to change. Hopefully the emails have been easier to read than in years past and starting with Hyperfest, the printed/PDF'd schedules are easier to consume than in years past. We've started there but want to continue to improve things.

[Kaan]

stupid Honda kids with the stupid questions

[Jake]

stupid Honda kids with the stupid questions

There are no stupid questions! I just generally don't appreciate the "this isn't what I expected so it sucks!" attitude from people. Always happy to provide the receipts and encourage attendees to read their emails.

[Kaan]

stupid Honda kids with the stupid questions

There are no stupid questions! I just generally don't appreciate the "this isn't what I expected so it sucks!" attitude from people. Always happy to provide the receipts and encourage attendees to read their emails.

after comp school and licensing stuff from nationals... the hyperfest email and website was easy mode. he's new, he'll get used to it. I'm just giving him grief ... he did survive the great hate and all.

[DierwulfBL]

The car has no interior/pocket/place for a phone and I fear the phablet will break if in my pocket, and I'd rather not trust a $1200 device to duct tape on the dash for a ~2hr drive on PIC R3s. Car is a hatchback(no trunk), and plan was to stow the phone in my bin I am bringing, and since the car is fully caged I doubt ill be able to reach into my bin from my racing seat that I squeeze into. I do not, nor will I ever, own a printer as that's a waste of trees/money after the year 2000, due to advances in technology. An alphabetical list of 400 drivers is not that bad, our AX group has 120-140 at many events and it takes very little time and there isnt much of a gate backup with 2 people checking off the list. You're not checking "thousands" because of the boolean "are you registered to drive at this event or spectating".

The schedule link was NOT in the email (nor were PDFs attached), i had to link off the email to a page, then link off that page to another page, which had a link to the PDF (that wasnt very easily seen as my eyes went straight to HPDE information, and it was further down the page). This is a highly inefficient process and why I couldnt find it the first 5 times I went through the links. Redundancy of the PDF schedule links would have helped greatly here, then I wouldnt have been confused. So far the instructions do not seem new comer friendly, hopefully some of my feedback can be taken into consideration, or possibly dont allow first timers of VIR at Hyperfest because they have too many questions?

On the topics of printers, is there a website where I can do the tech form ahead of time? Also, will there be some printed out and available to fill out at the event, or am I going to have to make a trip to staples/office depot to waste a tree?

I'm gonna have a lot more questions, bring the hate I'm a seasoned veteran. I never said it sucked fwiw. I said it's bullshit in this day and age, which it is . But seems to be fairly par for the course (which I'd love to try and change)

[Kaan]

FYI, get used to the PDF links... when the schedule changes, and it will, they update the website.

do you have a passenger seat in the car? I'd put my phone in a bag in the seat.

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don't bash the website when you cant use google... I'm almost 40 years old and found the form

https://nasa-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/doc...h_form.pdf

[DierwulfBL]

FYI, get used to the PDF links... when the schedule changes, and it will, they update the website.

do you have a passenger seat in the car? I'd put my phone in a bag in the seat.

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don't bash the website when you cant use google... I'm almost 40 years old and found the form

https://nasa-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/doc...h_form.pdf

Nah, just a milk crate for the instructor and he can hang onto the cage like a monkey #RicerLyfe (kidding)


I generally put my bin in the passenger seat and i cant reach up over the top of it and into it while sitting and it completely takes up the seat perfectly. I'll try to find a safe place, but making the gate line get longer may just force them to fix their process too

I had no trouble finding the form. I dont want to print it out, I want to submit it to them electronically, is this a thing? If i have to print it, i can likely get staples/OD to print them both for me at some point. Id rather not do that at all though if they have them printed out there already.

[Senor_Taylor]

If you're complaining about it being a complicated weekend, you shouldn't have picked HYPERFEST to be your first one back with the group. Literally any other weekend, you sign your name and drive in. You absolutely can't compare this to any other event.

That said, I can see how it would be confusing. There's progress made every year to make it better. I'm sure your feedback will be useful.

[DierwulfBL]

If you're complaining about it being a complicated weekend, you shouldn't have picked HYPERFEST to be your first one back with the group. Literally any other weekend, you sign your name and drive in. You absolutely can't compare this to any other event.

Yea, or just ask questions and clarify all the things with the folks that have experience with it. I wouldnt call it complaining, youre just reading my posts wrong maybe. Some people just cant take constructive criticism I guess.

[Kaan]

FYI, get used to the PDF links... when the schedule changes, and it will, they update the website.

do you have a passenger seat in the car? I'd put my phone in a bag in the seat.

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don't bash the website when you cant use google... I'm almost 40 years old and found the form

https://nasa-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/doc...h_form.pdf

I had no trouble finding the form. I dont want to print it out, I want to submit it to them electronically, is this a thing? If i have to print it, i can likely get staples/OD to print them both for me at some point. Id rather not do that at all though if they have them printed out there already.

there isn't a digital version. your instructor will double check your paperwork and it is filed away for the duration of the event...

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FYI, you are young and tech savvy. most people at the track aren't. I have a feeling this "ageist" post is the resistance to change.

show up as early as you can (and pack beer/food for the line), camp (VIR is charging $50 for hyperfest... whiskey tango foxtrot), and live the hizzyfest life.

[Jake]

If you're complaining about it being a complicated weekend, you shouldn't have picked HYPERFEST to be your first one back with the group. Literally any other weekend, you sign your name and drive in. You absolutely can't compare this to any other event.

Yea, or just ask questions and clarify all the things with the folks that have experience with it. I wouldnt call it complaining, youre just reading my posts wrong maybe. Some people just cant take constructive criticism I guess.

I understand constructive criticism and welcome it (I'm also not in a decision-making role with NASA, but can absolutely pass along suggestions). 

Yes, accessing some information requires a lot of clicks. And some things require a printer. Just kinda how it is for now. There is a lot of information to be distributed for every one of our events and most people ignore the emails anyway. The reason we don't link directly to schedules from the email is because the schedule does occasionally change between the email send and the event. I will certainly pass along the feedback that direct links would be helpful, perhaps if we can get the schedule finalized earlier it would help with that effort.

I swear I'm not an asshole in person, btw. 

Usually.