WTB: Base Autocrosser
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Good afternoon, Madison Motorsports.

NTIMan and I find ourselves in a dilemma. We'd both like to do more and higher intensity motorsports events, but we find ourselves without a suitable car.

His, because it is a vanilla peoplemover, and mine because it is a 37kUSD dollar war machine that I can't afford to wad up.

(No discussion on this point. Accept it as a given.)

Now, we've decided that what we'd ideally do is build a autocross/hippiedee car that met GRM Challenge Budget requirements. Why? So we could, theoretically, go to the challenge, of course! Whether we actually go or not is immaterial. But we need a place to start.

So we'd like for you guys to be on the lookout for an automobile with the following requirements:

#1: Must run. I don't care if it actually moves under it's own power, or if it idles like total shit, or overheats to the moon as soon as it turns over. It must start and stay running.
#2: Must be no more than 1100 dollars initial purchase price. This is a little more than half the overall ($2012) budget, and just happens to be the cash I have on hand. This is pretty much non-negotiable. If you see something someone wants for like 3k, it's just out of the question, as this is a potential GRM challenge car.
#3: Rust must be a minimum. Surface rust is fine, I guess, it'll be sanded and painted if it bothers me overmuch. BUT, if you look under the suspension and the bolts just look like little brown knobs...well, I ain't interested in cursing some 5th member bolt trackside in the rain and VIR sand. kthxbye.

There are also the following nice-to-haves:
#1: RWD. Obviously this would be more fun, but it's not a requirement.
#2: Manual trans. Again, it will eventually *have* a manual trans, but I don't suppose it needs necessarily to start with one. Still, MT preferred.
#3: Large parts availability. As cool as it would be to run, say, an E23, if major parts are not available at the local AAP warehouse, I'm not sure it's gonna be my thing.
#4: Light weight. I realize this is relative. But between a Civic Hatch and a Crown Vic, I'll take the CH. Lower consumables, less wear and tear = win. Not a requirement, but definitely nicer.

Ideal cars:
MR2 (especially Wedge)
Civic
Miata
E30 (If I must. *sigh*)
Foxbody
Volvo wagon
240SX (that hasn't been dorifto'd to hades and back)
Impulse (man, I know I said #3 but a turbo impulse would be tiiiiiiiiiiits)
80's muscle in general
B13 SE-R/NX2000 (NO B14's THEY SUCK BALLS)


I am probably dreaming, but I figure you guys are always scouring the interwebs and seeing cool shit.

Hit me up.
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#2
One thing you may want to keep in mind aside from the 2012 budget, is after about a year of autoxing, youll be bored if your car is not competitive in SCCA classing. Keep this in mind and try to find something cheap that will fit in an SCCA class.
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#4
i've read what you said; and completely ignored it. This would be sweet!

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navin Wrote:Bare bones like a mothafucka: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.roadraceautox.com/showthread.php?t=38772">http://www.roadraceautox.com/showthread.php?t=38772</a><!-- m -->
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davej Wrote:i've read what you said; and completely ignored it. This would be sweet!

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LOL, if I didn't think it would literally break in half the first time I turned really hard I'd be halfway tempted. 914's were awesome for about 5 years then WHUPS
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#6
Little confused, how would you "wad up" your car in an autocross?
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Ken Wrote:Little confused, how would you "wad up" your car in an autocross?
Yeah, sorry, we're not going to let that one go Rex. Tongue
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#8
My ex-girlfriends brother flipped his C4 vette at a BRR-SCCA event....
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#1:
CaptainHenreh Wrote:Now, we've decided that what we'd ideally do is build a autocross/hippiedee car that met GRM Challenge Budget requirements.


#2:
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(also, you will likely see the STI at autocrosses, it would just be nice to roll with something that was a little less 'holyshitfuck' when I am at 9/10ths)
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CaptainHenreh Wrote:it would just be nice to roll with something that was a little less 'holyshitfuck' when I am at 9/10ths
ok, this is valid. Carry on. Heck, just cone damage to the STI might cost half as much as your proposed beater.
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#11
What about a G-body? See Cutlass/MCSS all the time in project status for pretty cheap. Here's one on ebay: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Monte-Carlo-SS-/260991453985?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3cc44d8b21">http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Monte-Carlo-SS-/260991453985?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3cc44d8b21</a><!-- m -->

Body on frame, V8, RWD, cheap parts, relatively light for their size - 3200lbs or so
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#12
I think he wants something that can actually turn......or do an autocross without having to do a 6 point turn.
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HAULN-SS Wrote:What about a G-body? See Cutlass/MCSS all the time in project status for pretty cheap. Here's one on ebay: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Monte-Carlo-SS-/260991453985?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3cc44d8b21">http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Monte-Carlo-SS-/260991453985?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3cc44d8b21</a><!-- m -->

Body on frame, V8, RWD, cheap parts, relatively light for their size - 3200lbs or so


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aw man. I keep hoping someone I know would build something like this: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://s17.photobucket.com/albums/b94/xxxturbo6/?action=view&current=AutoXCar8.mp4">http://s17.photobucket.com/albums/b94/xxxturbo6/?action=view&current=AutoXCar8.mp4</a><!-- m -->
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#15
your requirements are on the "unicorn" side. they are out there, but it will be a job to find. i'll keep a look out and i'm sure others will too, but you arent the only one (even on this forum) that would jump at a deal that meets those criteria
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Kaan Wrote:your requirements are on the "unicorn" side. they are out there, but it will be a job to find. i'll keep a look out and i'm sure others will too, but you arent the only one (even on this forum) that would jump at a deal that meets those criteria
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Yes, I know this. If the weren't, I'd have already found it already.

I turned down a 400 dollar NX2000 and a 500 dollar G20 already. The NX for rust, and the G20 for ghettoness.
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BLINGMW Wrote:
CaptainHenreh Wrote:it would just be nice to roll with something that was a little less 'holyshitfuck' when I am at 9/10ths
ok, this is valid. Carry on. Heck, just cone damage to the STI might cost half as much as your proposed beater.

lol, agreed as well.
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CaptainHenreh Wrote:
Kaan Wrote:your requirements are on the "unicorn" side. they are out there, but it will be a job to find. i'll keep a look out and i'm sure others will too, but you arent the only one (even on this forum) that would jump at a deal that meets those criteria
<3

Yes, I know this. If the weren't, I'd have already found it already.

I turned down a 400 dollar NX2000 and a 500 dollar G20 already. The NX for rust, and the G20 for ghettoness.

define ghetto? you can get ghetto off the car Wink the rust is the pain in the dick
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#19
no shitboxes please.
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#20
944? :dunno:
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