Hyperfest '07 [Summit Point - June 23-24]
bouncy bouncy bouncy pantttts!
I Am Mike
4 wheels:  '01 RAV4 (Formerly '93 Civic CX, '01 S2000, '10 GTI, '09 A4 Avant)
2 wheels: '12 Surly Cross-Check Custom | '14 Trek Madone 2.1 105 | '17 Norco Threshold SL Force 1 | '17 Norco Revolver 9.2 FS | '18 BMC Roadmachine 02 Two | '19 Norco Search XR Steel (Formerly '97 Honda VFR750F, '05 Giant TCR 2, '15 WeThePeople Atlas 24, '10 Scott Scale 29er XT, '11 Cervelo R3 Rival, '12 Ridley X-Fire Red)

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hahaha, i hope you had fun cleaning off the back of your car, Hunter
2010 Civic Si
2019 4Runner TRD Off-Road
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Past:  03 Xterra SE 4x4  |  05 Impreza 2.5RS  |  99.5 A4 Quattro 1.8T  |  01 Accord EX  |  90 Maxima GXE  |  96 Explorer XLT
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On an unrelated note... I found out what Andy's "don't joke about" topic is.

Rickshaw drifting, however, is in-bounds.
'76 911S | '14 328xi | '17 GTI | In memoriam: '08 848, '85 944

"Here, at last, is the cure for texting while driving. The millions of deaths which occur every year due to the iPhone’s ability to stream the Kim K/Ray-J video in 4G could all be avoided, every last one of them, if the government issued everyone a Seventies 911 and made sure they always left the house five minutes later than they’d wanted to. It would help if it could be made to rain as well. Full attention on the road. Guaranteed." -Jack Baruth
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i did some writing today: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.iammike.org/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1182884476&archive=&start_from=&ucat=2&">http://www.iammike.org/index.php?subact ... m=&ucat=2&</a><!-- m -->
I Am Mike
4 wheels:  '01 RAV4 (Formerly '93 Civic CX, '01 S2000, '10 GTI, '09 A4 Avant)
2 wheels: '12 Surly Cross-Check Custom | '14 Trek Madone 2.1 105 | '17 Norco Threshold SL Force 1 | '17 Norco Revolver 9.2 FS | '18 BMC Roadmachine 02 Two | '19 Norco Search XR Steel (Formerly '97 Honda VFR750F, '05 Giant TCR 2, '15 WeThePeople Atlas 24, '10 Scott Scale 29er XT, '11 Cervelo R3 Rival, '12 Ridley X-Fire Red)

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If you want to make the car faster... suspension/tires will make the biggest difference in laptimes - IMO of course Smile A B16 trans should make for a solid improvement as well, the stock LS gearing stinks. LSD doesnt help that much, but still worth some time and they're cheap.
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
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do what with suspension and tires though? suspension i'll consider, but tires? i'm sticking with what's cheap.
I Am Mike
4 wheels:  '01 RAV4 (Formerly '93 Civic CX, '01 S2000, '10 GTI, '09 A4 Avant)
2 wheels: '12 Surly Cross-Check Custom | '14 Trek Madone 2.1 105 | '17 Norco Threshold SL Force 1 | '17 Norco Revolver 9.2 FS | '18 BMC Roadmachine 02 Two | '19 Norco Search XR Steel (Formerly '97 Honda VFR750F, '05 Giant TCR 2, '15 WeThePeople Atlas 24, '10 Scott Scale 29er XT, '11 Cervelo R3 Rival, '12 Ridley X-Fire Red)

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Mike Wrote:tires? i'm sticking with what's cheap.

Ok.... suspension (shocks, springs, barz) and gearing then.
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
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my shocks and springs aren't exactly crap... i know there is better out there, but is it really worth the cost?

bars? nobody has yet to tell me why... if i can do what i want with springs, they make no sense. i've posed that question a handful of times on various forums.
I Am Mike
4 wheels:  '01 RAV4 (Formerly '93 Civic CX, '01 S2000, '10 GTI, '09 A4 Avant)
2 wheels: '12 Surly Cross-Check Custom | '14 Trek Madone 2.1 105 | '17 Norco Threshold SL Force 1 | '17 Norco Revolver 9.2 FS | '18 BMC Roadmachine 02 Two | '19 Norco Search XR Steel (Formerly '97 Honda VFR750F, '05 Giant TCR 2, '15 WeThePeople Atlas 24, '10 Scott Scale 29er XT, '11 Cervelo R3 Rival, '12 Ridley X-Fire Red)

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Its a voodoo thing. I never liked how the car handled without bars... some may differ. Why not run massive bars and no springs? I dunno... I think a 21mm front/23 mm rear bar is a good setup, cheaply done with OEM parts.

Good shocks wont make the car really any faster, but they will make the car easier to drive - which, in turn could motivate you go faster. More voodoo inside the dampers too.
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
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i don't buy in to voodoo... i'm pretty happy with the way the car handles and brakes right now... i know there is room for improvement, but i'm very budget-concious and don't want to put money where i don't REALLY need to. i'm unhappy with how quickly it can get out of corners so more power is the obvious answer imo Tongue

i suppose i'll consider some sways soon... as long as i put them on together, the car should remain pretty balanced. i just hate having parts lie around Tongue
I Am Mike
4 wheels:  '01 RAV4 (Formerly '93 Civic CX, '01 S2000, '10 GTI, '09 A4 Avant)
2 wheels: '12 Surly Cross-Check Custom | '14 Trek Madone 2.1 105 | '17 Norco Threshold SL Force 1 | '17 Norco Revolver 9.2 FS | '18 BMC Roadmachine 02 Two | '19 Norco Search XR Steel (Formerly '97 Honda VFR750F, '05 Giant TCR 2, '15 WeThePeople Atlas 24, '10 Scott Scale 29er XT, '11 Cervelo R3 Rival, '12 Ridley X-Fire Red)

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Mike Wrote:more power is the obvious answer imo Tongue

I didnt touch that since you said you wanted to leave the motor alone... how much HP are bolt-ons going to get you at what cost?
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
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oh i know they're not the best bang for the buck... boosty would be, but that's not really an option. the bolt-ons have to be done at some point, and most of them will be compatible with a new motor when i get to it...

new exhaust should free up some weight as well as add some power, intake manifold, header, and a good hondata tune? might see 15hp from all of that... couple it with a better tranny and i think it'd hold me over for another couple years.

or maybe i should think about lsvtec... hrm...

edit: please post replies in my car thread... don't want to muck this up too badly.
I Am Mike
4 wheels:  '01 RAV4 (Formerly '93 Civic CX, '01 S2000, '10 GTI, '09 A4 Avant)
2 wheels: '12 Surly Cross-Check Custom | '14 Trek Madone 2.1 105 | '17 Norco Threshold SL Force 1 | '17 Norco Revolver 9.2 FS | '18 BMC Roadmachine 02 Two | '19 Norco Search XR Steel (Formerly '97 Honda VFR750F, '05 Giant TCR 2, '15 WeThePeople Atlas 24, '10 Scott Scale 29er XT, '11 Cervelo R3 Rival, '12 Ridley X-Fire Red)

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Mike Wrote:bars? nobody has yet to tell me why... if i can do what i want with springs, they make no sense. i've posed that question a handful of times on various forums.

You run a bar so you don't have to run such a high spring rate. You don't want just an uber stiff suspension but you DO want it stiff in roll, which is what rollbars help achieve.
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DJ?
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white_2kgt Wrote:
Mike Wrote:bars? nobody has yet to tell me why... if i can do what i want with springs, they make no sense. i've posed that question a handful of times on various forums.

You run a bar so you don't have to run such a high spring rate. You don't want just an uber stiff suspension but you DO want it stiff in roll, which is what rollbars help achieve.

well i KNOW that, but if i have yet to achieve too high a spring rate and the car isn't rolling a gross amount in corners, there is no point.

although maybe it IS rolling a bit too much based on the UCAs hitting the shock mount this weekend? hrmph. the reason i think i'm stiff enough is because the car slides quite a bit (overworking tires)... stiffening it up is only going to worsen that.
I Am Mike
4 wheels:  '01 RAV4 (Formerly '93 Civic CX, '01 S2000, '10 GTI, '09 A4 Avant)
2 wheels: '12 Surly Cross-Check Custom | '14 Trek Madone 2.1 105 | '17 Norco Threshold SL Force 1 | '17 Norco Revolver 9.2 FS | '18 BMC Roadmachine 02 Two | '19 Norco Search XR Steel (Formerly '97 Honda VFR750F, '05 Giant TCR 2, '15 WeThePeople Atlas 24, '10 Scott Scale 29er XT, '11 Cervelo R3 Rival, '12 Ridley X-Fire Red)

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navin Wrote:[Image: hf50.jpg]

DJ?

HAHA your poor lip, it is destroyed
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Mike Wrote:stiffening it up is only going to worsen that.

No it wont.

Adding more roll stiffness will keep the car off the bumpstops and hard parts from hitting the frame, and you can run more camber.
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
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.RJ Wrote:
Mike Wrote:stiffening it up is only going to worsen that.

No it wont.

Adding more roll stiffness will keep the car off the bumpstops and hard parts from hitting the frame, and you can run more camber.

i don't think it's on the bumpstops... and i don't think anything is hitting anything else. they were at the beginning of the weekend, but i solved that by unslamming the front.
I Am Mike
4 wheels:  '01 RAV4 (Formerly '93 Civic CX, '01 S2000, '10 GTI, '09 A4 Avant)
2 wheels: '12 Surly Cross-Check Custom | '14 Trek Madone 2.1 105 | '17 Norco Threshold SL Force 1 | '17 Norco Revolver 9.2 FS | '18 BMC Roadmachine 02 Two | '19 Norco Search XR Steel (Formerly '97 Honda VFR750F, '05 Giant TCR 2, '15 WeThePeople Atlas 24, '10 Scott Scale 29er XT, '11 Cervelo R3 Rival, '12 Ridley X-Fire Red)

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Have you checked shock travel with zip ties on the shock shafts? How much bump travel do you have? How much spring travel do you have before coil bind?

At your ride height, and ~600 lb springs with no swaybar you are on the bumpstops, no question.
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
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aight, we'll check it next event.
I Am Mike
4 wheels:  '01 RAV4 (Formerly '93 Civic CX, '01 S2000, '10 GTI, '09 A4 Avant)
2 wheels: '12 Surly Cross-Check Custom | '14 Trek Madone 2.1 105 | '17 Norco Threshold SL Force 1 | '17 Norco Revolver 9.2 FS | '18 BMC Roadmachine 02 Two | '19 Norco Search XR Steel (Formerly '97 Honda VFR750F, '05 Giant TCR 2, '15 WeThePeople Atlas 24, '10 Scott Scale 29er XT, '11 Cervelo R3 Rival, '12 Ridley X-Fire Red)

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