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$183/ea in the stock size for my truck (265/70RR17)
Is that expensive? Remember I come from the land of Hoosiers and Pilot Sports.
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daddy lets you see the receipt?
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Mike Wrote:daddy lets you see the receipt?
Only if I sneak into his wallet.
$1400 for tires in a season isn't that much when you're paying $6.50/gallon for 100 octane.
Is there where I quote you saying people shouldn't talk about things they don't know about?
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"Here, at last, is the cure for texting while driving. The millions of deaths which occur every year due to the iPhone’s ability to stream the Kim K/Ray-J video in 4G could all be avoided, every last one of them, if the government issued everyone a Seventies 911 and made sure they always left the house five minutes later than they’d wanted to. It would help if it could be made to rain as well. Full attention on the road. Guaranteed." -Jack Baruth
Apoc Wrote:Is that expensive? Remember I come from the land of Hoosiers and Pilot Sports.
I dont know, I guess since I never buy tires, but $850 for a set (after they are shipped, mounted, etc) seems a bit high.
Apoc Wrote:$1400 for tires in a season isn't that much when you're paying $6.50/gallon for 100 octane.
Why the hell do you guys use 100 octane from the track?
I guess the cost difference isnt big since you'll use < 15 gallons a weekend, but I tried 103 octane, ran a shitload of timing, and didnt think it was any faster.
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
.RJ Wrote:I dont know, I guess since I never buy tires, but $850 for a set (after they are shipped, mounted, etc) seems a bit high.
That's about what my Pilot Sport AS were, exlcuding the wheels. I'm guess I'm just a bit jaded when it comes to tire prices. I mean, if a set of $700-750 tires last a halfa season why should I pay $850 for damned good tires that last 30-40k miles?
.RJ Wrote:Why the hell do you guys use 100 octane from the track?
I guess the cost difference isnt big since you'll use < 15 gallons a weekend, but I tried 103 octane, ran a shitload of timing, and didnt think it was any faster.
Compression? :wink:
It's not worth the savings to get 100+ before you head to the track... not that I'm the one who'd be doing it.
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"Here, at last, is the cure for texting while driving. The millions of deaths which occur every year due to the iPhone’s ability to stream the Kim K/Ray-J video in 4G could all be avoided, every last one of them, if the government issued everyone a Seventies 911 and made sure they always left the house five minutes later than they’d wanted to. It would help if it could be made to rain as well. Full attention on the road. Guaranteed." -Jack Baruth
.RJ Wrote:Pete, are those the same tires you had before? What kind of life did you get out of 'em?
RJ, I have two sets of these for my tacoma, ones with Revo and ones without, both are great tires and well worth the money. The ones without the Revo should be less expensive and our practically the same tire. The set that I have without Revo have around 50K and will prolly go another 2-3K, the set with Revo not sure on the mileage, but still a good tire. I would def buy them again.
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High octane fuel is money for turbocharged cars, but only if you tune for it. I would never run high octane fuel in a NA car, because it really doesn't make much of a difference. You can see the difference 110 octane made in my car though, imagine if I had used C16...
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WRXtranceformed Wrote:High octane fuel is money for turbocharged cars, but only if you tune for it. I would never run high octane fuel in a NA car, because it really doesn't make much of a difference. You can see the difference 110 octane made in my car though, imagine if I had used C16...
advanced timing (and/or high compression) = increased power = increased likeliness of detonation.
doesn't matter if you have a turbo or not.
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WRXtranceformed Wrote:High octane fuel is money for turbocharged cars, but only if you tune for it. I would never run high octane fuel in a NA car, because it really doesn't make much of a difference. You can see the difference 110 octane made in my car though, imagine if I had used C16...
yea, you run a 11:1 N/A motor on 93 and see how long it last...
I have never had a problem driving in the snow, I think it helps to be cautious. When I drove the S10 I threw sandbags in the back and I think that helped.
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white_2kgt Wrote:yea, you run a 11:1 N/A motor on 93 and see how long it last...
OEM honda does that... my ITR survived 4,000 track miles in one year and was no worse for wear (other than a clutch release bearing).
Honda > Ford 
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
.RJ Wrote:white_2kgt Wrote:yea, you run a 11:1 N/A motor on 93 and see how long it last...
OEM honda does that... my ITR survived 4,000 track miles in one year and was no worse for wear (other than a clutch release bearing).
Honda > Ford
puhlease!
10.6 < 11.1
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What Lee meant to say and all of you ignored cuz your comparing your compression dick sizes was to say having an NA car run on pump then running high octane and bumping up the timing does nowhere near the gains that running a turbo car with racing and being able to turn up the boost.
A car made to run 11:1 on pump is okay, but wont see near the gains on turning up timing with race gas as a regular turbo car with race gas and turning up the boost.
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If you have a naturally aspirated motor and you absolutely HAVE to run it on high octane fuel (meaning higher than 93 octane) to make it last, I am shedding a tear for you right now. =P
DJ had it right, I was a little too intoxicated to make it clear.
I could run my car perfectly safe on pump gas... because I've had it professionally tuned to do so. I can gain another 100+horsepower/torque by hooking a laptop up to it and running a different fuel, because the timing and boost curves can be run completely different with high octane + leaded fuel. In my case, it is just as safe to do so.
When I own a Corvette, it will be tuned for pump gas and will be producing similar horsepower numbers (if not more than) my STi on pump gas because it will be tuned to do so.
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WRXtranceformed Wrote:If you have a naturally aspirated motor and you absolutely HAVE to run it on high octane fuel (meaning higher than 93 octane) to make it last, I am shedding a tear for you right now. =P
DJ had it right, I was a little too intoxicated to make it clear.
I could run my car perfectly safe on pump gas... because I've had it professionally tuned to do so. I can gain another 100+horsepower/torque by hooking a laptop up to it and running a different fuel, because the timing and boost curves can be run completely different with high octane + leaded fuel. In my case, it is just as safe to do so.
When I own a Corvette, it will be tuned for pump gas and will be producing similar horsepower numbers (if not more than) my STi on pump gas because it will be tuned to do so.
I see you have, 458whp on pump, in your sig, FWIW, my brothers NA FORD engine makes more than that on 93 . Ain't no replacment for displacment.
white_2kgt Wrote:WRXtranceformed Wrote:If you have a naturally aspirated motor and you absolutely HAVE to run it on high octane fuel (meaning higher than 93 octane) to make it last, I am shedding a tear for you right now. =P
DJ had it right, I was a little too intoxicated to make it clear.
I could run my car perfectly safe on pump gas... because I've had it professionally tuned to do so. I can gain another 100+horsepower/torque by hooking a laptop up to it and running a different fuel, because the timing and boost curves can be run completely different with high octane + leaded fuel. In my case, it is just as safe to do so.
When I own a Corvette, it will be tuned for pump gas and will be producing similar horsepower numbers (if not more than) my STi on pump gas because it will be tuned to do so.
I see you have, 458whp on pump, in your sig, FWIW, my brothers NA FORD engine makes more than that on 93 . Ain't no replacment for displacment. Why do you think I'm switching to a LS-engined car?? :wink:
Although, your brother's NA Ford, depending on how much he put to the wheels, could be about equal with mine. AWD drivetrain loss > RWD as you probably know, so if he's got over 575 hp at the crank on pump, he wins!
Not bad for 2.8 liters on piss gas huh? =P
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D_Eclipse9916 Wrote:What Lee meant to say and all of you ignored cuz your comparing your compression dick sizes was to say having an NA car run on pump then running high octane and bumping up the timing does nowhere near the gains that running a turbo car with racing and being able to turn up the boost.
So what you're saying is it's easier to make gains with a turbo car than an NA. Well there's a newsflash.
I think what you've both ignored is that our original conversation took place in the confines of a racing series/class with rules. We're not talking about how to make the fastest hotrod on the street or the best way to make a reliable daily driver with 400hp.
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"Here, at last, is the cure for texting while driving. The millions of deaths which occur every year due to the iPhone’s ability to stream the Kim K/Ray-J video in 4G could all be avoided, every last one of them, if the government issued everyone a Seventies 911 and made sure they always left the house five minutes later than they’d wanted to. It would help if it could be made to rain as well. Full attention on the road. Guaranteed." -Jack Baruth
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