Help Me Buy A Car Thread v.ScottyB: WITNESS ME BROTHERS

[PDenbigh]

How many miles do you drive in a day?

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Yah - I totally just dropped a Nissan Leaf in this thread.

[JPolen01]

How is he gonna rally cross that piece of crap?

[ViPER1313]

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detai...share_text

This meets none of your criteria, but it would be fun playing dukes of hazard at your next rallyx event.

[ScottyB]

Yah - I totally just dropped a Nissan Leaf in this thread.

i don't know if we can be friends anymore

[WRXtranceformed]

Do people RallyX trucks? A truck would give you the best of all worlds, and it's so jawja

[JustinG]

Do people RallyX trucks? A truck would give you the best of all worlds, and it's so jawja

Sooooo, Raptor?

[.RJ]

Do people RallyX trucks? A truck would give you the best of all worlds, and it's so jawja

Sooooo, Raptor?

A raptor might be enough truck to stop you from getting beat up. Maybe.

Diesel & stacks & 35's are where its at in the dirty south.

[WRXtranceformed]

Saw spy shots of the rumored Ranger Raptor, I will be giving that a hardpark stancebro look if/when it drops.

A Raptor rally crossing would be epic but is wayyyy outside of the budget range, and no manual tranny. There are tons of options for trucks though with MTs and I think they are usually cheaper because most people don't want MTs in their trucks. I would guess that a rally-x prepped truck would be super freaking fun to drive though...some of my favorite driving memories were taking my first truck (early 90s Yota pickup with added leaf springs) through a dirt bike course at full speed. The woops were brutal!! And IMO there is no better all purpose vehicle than a truck

[*insertusernamehere*]

Have you thought about Infinitis? You can get a manual, AWD, g37, V6 noises, big and heavy, space for fam, won't be the greatest at autox but what out of these options are good at it anyway? Haha

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[ScottyB]

one thing that sucks about living down here - trucks don't really depreciate much. i think in my area its literally 3 trucks for every 1 or 2 cars. our local ford dealer, if you check out the current inventory, has almost 60% F150s and then the rest is Ford's other 8 or 9 vehicles.

i'd love a raptor and would bend my "no autos" rule to own one, but if i had one i'd want to hoon it in the dirt all the time, not just sometimes. someday when i get some property in the mountains its going to happen.

VW dealers are just being all-around shitbirds. all of them. all the same story, "oh our discount prices are unbeatable, we need these gone, you won't believe it, we'll work with you" and then by the time you talk OTD price they start balking and dump another $2500 worth of fees and dealer markups on you which defeats the entire premise of buying the car for me. if they were willing to play the 0% AND discounted list price game, like they advertised, then i'd be all over these things. but its a bait and switch tactic to try to rope suckers like me to getting on the phone and getting into the showrooms so i'll fall in love with a car and overpay for it. not happening.

its amazing how much these dealers DON'T want to talk numbers over email. they want to call, sweet talk you, beg you to get into a showroom. come drive it, you'll love it! they want you in their building where they can control the circus.

at this point i'm pretty much giving up on it. i have a local dealer that has some cars on the lot, is much lower pressure, and was willing to price match but they don't actually have what i want color-wise. i also get the sense the sales team likes using the "good cop bad cop" tactic with the GM, the way they've been talking to me "yeah i want to make something work, we'll just have to see what the manager says, i can't call the shots". yeah OK, call me when you're out of parking spots for those shiny 2018's....

[ScottyB]

big and heavy

i'd rather not

[JustinG]

Saw spy shots of the rumored Ranger Raptor, I will be giving that a hardpark stancebro look if/when it drops.

A Raptor rally crossing would be epic but is wayyyy outside of the budget range, and no manual tranny. There are tons of options for trucks though with MTs and I think they are usually cheaper because most people don't want MTs in their trucks. I would guess that a rally-x prepped truck would be super freaking fun to drive though...some of my favorite driving memories were taking my first truck (early 90s Yota pickup with added leaf springs) through a dirt bike course at full speed. The woops were brutal!! And IMO there is no better all purpose vehicle than a truck

Sounds like Scotty needs a former Rally truck.

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[ScottyB]

take a zero off that price and i'll win carpool drop-off at school for all eternity

[WRXtranceformed]

one thing that sucks about living down here - trucks don't really depreciate much. i think in my area its literally 3 trucks for every 1 or 2 cars. our local ford dealer, if you check out the current inventory, has almost 60% F150s and then the rest is Ford's other 8 or 9 vehicles.

i'd love a raptor and would bend my "no autos" rule to own one, but if i had one i'd want to hoon it in the dirt all the time, not just sometimes. someday when i get some property in the mountains its going to happen.

VW dealers are just being all-around shitbirds. all of them. all the same story, "oh our discount prices are unbeatable, we need these gone, you won't believe it, we'll work with you" and then by the time you talk OTD price they start balking and dump another $2500 worth of fees and dealer markups on you which defeats the entire premise of buying the car for me. if they were willing to play the 0% AND discounted list price game, like they advertised, then i'd be all over these things. but its a bait and switch tactic to try to rope suckers like me to getting on the phone and getting into the showrooms so i'll fall in love with a car and overpay for it. not happening.

its amazing how much these dealers DON'T want to talk numbers over email. they want to call, sweet talk you, beg you to get into a showroom. come drive it, you'll love it! they want you in their building where they can control the circus.

at this point i'm pretty much giving up on it. i have a local dealer that has some cars on the lot, is much lower pressure, and was willing to price match but they don't actually have what i want color-wise. i also get the sense the sales team likes using the "good cop bad cop" tactic with the GM, the way they've been talking to me "yeah i want to make something work, we'll just have to see what the manager says, i can't call the shots". yeah OK, call me when you're out of parking spots for those shiny 2018's....

Car dealer sales experiences really are complete trash for the most part. I personally relish it, coming from a sales background, because it's so broken and long/drawn out. There are a few dealers here, mostly Toyota dealerships, that are mirroring the CARMAX "no haggle" process. The price is what it is, sales people are on salaries with a bonus tied to overall sales so the pressure is low. Wish more would move to that kind of model, assuming that the pricing is not fixed at a super high level.

[.RJ]

The VW experience makes me really leery of trying to buy an Alltrack if thats the route I go. I thought it would be a slam dunk easy button.

[Apoc]

Either it's a regional thing or I got lucky with the two dealers I worked with. I never had to speak on the phone once and I negotiated price via email.

[WRXtranceformed]

Either it's a regional thing or I got lucky with the two dealers I worked with. I never had to speak on the phone once and I negotiated price via email.

I have had several successful remote negotiations but it takes a lot of effort to find dealers in the US with sales reps / managers that are good enough to handle the process.

My buddy actually had a sales rep at a GMC dealer in PA do a personalized Youtube video walkthrough of a truck he was looking at buying from them. I thought that was pretty cool...he didn't buy from them though :lol:

I can't count the number of times I have reached out to a dealership and never had a sales rep follow up with me, or emailed a rep after a test drive and never received a response.

[.RJ]

I have had several successful remote negotiations but it takes a lot of effort to find dealers in the US with sales reps / managers that are good enough to handle the process.

Meanwhile they contribute money to lobby the shit out of keeping Tesla out because they dont fall in line with the established shit show business practices in place.

Tell them to go blow a goat.

[ScottyB]

I never had to speak on the phone once and I negotiated price via email.

that's the thing - once I start talking numbers they either won't respond or just continue responding with "I see, well why don't you give me a call / come on down and we'll go over some numbers". you west-coasters must be a lot more chill about this kind of transaction.

i don't want to go over anything, i want you to see the number i'm giving you and tell me if you can sell me a car for that figure or not. i don't have time for this garbage.

anyway, i'm going over to the local dealer and test driving a GTI SE w/manual that came in on a truck last night. i think they're trying to earn my business on this and the worst that can happen is i walk away. they've told me twice they think they can be more aggressive on this one due to it being a manual and a color i didn't want (but could come to like...for the right price).

tomorrow i'm off to Savannah to test drive an Si. beyond that...all my prospects have either turned up bad Carfaxes, sold out from under me, or are priced out of my reach.

[RawrImAMonster]

Have you driven any of them yet? I'm curious what you think of the manuals on the mk7.

I finally drove a manual mk6 gti last night and the clutch pedal was the lightest by far of any car I've ever driven. It felt like something was broken because there was no resistance to pushing the pedal in at all. Just in general, you can't really feel the engage point or anything going on with the shifter either. Honestly, I think I'd prefer one with the dual clutch transmission over the manual. Driving that for 15 minutes and switching back to my m3 was actually jarring. It's that big of a difference.