presumably you don't leave your pistol case on the kitchen table, eh?
i am down with a safe for long arms because they're difficult to conceal. a handgun? hide it next to your bed. if somebody wants to take your shit, they're going to take the safe unless it's bolted down or weighs 53454354lbs.
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Apoc Wrote:15 seconds away.
thats about how long it will take you to get into the safe when you are awake.
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Mike Wrote:presumably you don't leave your pistol case on the kitchen table, eh?
i am down with a safe for long arms because they're difficult to conceal. a handgun? hide it next to your bed. if somebody wants to take your shit, they're going to take the safe unless it's bolted down or weighs 53454354lbs.
I would probably bolt it.
Kaan Wrote:Apoc Wrote:15 seconds away.
thats about how long it will take you to get into the safe when you are awake.
Okay. So no recommendations then?
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loaded and with a bed holster. 
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Yeah now that I have a big dog, Im less concerned about having my handgun available in 0.2 seconds. She will either keep the baddie occupied long enough for me to open a safe, or scare him away outright.
So Im shopping for a handgun safve too
Gunshow tomorrow here in Richmond. Anyone planning to attend?
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no... i think i have to work. 
Evan i get your thing with having a dog. and in your location i'd probably be fine with that. but if you are more isolated, a dog would be a speed bump.
they make hoslters and you can mod some... that mount to the box spring. they will be harder for people to "find" but easy for you to reach.
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Wow mikey, youve really let yourself go now that your engaged.
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A bit of research suggests Stack-On may be the brand of choice.
A bit more research suggest these may be the versions of choice:
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Stack-on isn't bad, but a good friend of mine runs gunvault in his car, so if you don't mind using a key, it's pretty cheap and can be easily secured. I mean, if you're just trying to keep out $RandomPerson then you don't need like, a *safe*. Just a lockbox that can't be easily carried off, right?
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The reviews I read about Gunvault weren't *that* great.
I have three basic requirements:
-Be able to prevent carry off
-The ability to open it in a reasonable amount of time, say under 5 seconds (wide awake)
-No key (they're just asking for trouble)
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Today, Tuesday, March 6, is the Republican Presidential Primary.
The VCDL 2012 Federal Candidate Survey was mailed to the two candidates on the Primary ballot -- Ron Paul and Mitt Romney.
The Survey is posted on the VCDL website:
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Ron Paul answered the VCDL Candidate survey 100% in support of gun owners. Unfortunately, Mitt Romney has so far refused to answer VCDL's survey.
If a candidate is afraid to take a public stand on these issues now, BEFORE the election, then they are unlikely to be very responsive to your views AFTER the election.
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I don't think Mitt Romney is secretly anti-gun. I think he's anti-taking-a-position-on-something-important. Which means if elected he probably wouldn't change the law in either direction.
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Speaking of gun laws, part of Maryland's gun law was struck down in court:
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Basically the part that requires citizens to show a good reason for carrying a firearm was ruled unconstitutional. So perhaps this means you can keep your gun and ammo in the same part of the car when driving through Maryland.
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I'd have otherwise kept a photo of a zombie on my dash to show an officer.
THIS IS WHY, MOTHERFUCKER.
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G.Irish Wrote:Speaking of gun laws, part of Maryland's gun law was struck down in court:
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Basically the part that requires citizens to show a good reason for carrying a firearm was ruled unconstitutional. So perhaps this means you can keep your gun and ammo in the same part of the car when driving through Maryland.
I didn't read this article, but based on another I read, you had to justify a need just to get a permit to own a handgun. It all came about because a guy who bought a gun in 2001 after a home intrusion was refused a renewal a dozen years later because he couldn't prove a need to have one outside the home.
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G.Irish Wrote:I don't think Mitt Romney is secretly anti-gun. I think he's anti-taking-a-position-on-something-important. Which means if elected he probably wouldn't change the law in either direction.
Except that Masshole has a carbon copy of the expired AWB that was signed into law BY HIM
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CaptainHenreh Wrote:G.Irish Wrote:I don't think Mitt Romney is secretly anti-gun. I think he's anti-taking-a-position-on-something-important. Which means if elected he probably wouldn't change the law in either direction.
Except that Masshole has a carbon copy of the expired AWB that was signed into law BY HIM Damn, there goes that theory.
On the other hand, that's from back when he was pretending to be a liberal. Now he's pretending to be a conservative.
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