Someone buy this RX7

[.RJ]

ITR 0wNz j00!

Blingoff.........

[damnit458]

eh

IMO lunchbox ownz all :wink:

[.RJ]

IMO lunchbox ownz all :wink:

w00t!

[damnit458]

now thats the stuff

[Chris]

don't sell the R... I really think its a great track car.

[Mike]

there are better track cars for the money.

[.RJ]

Not with better resale value

[Evan]

ITR "resale value" = a check from the insurance company

[Evan]

in a world in which money grew on trees, yes. when you find a wormhole to such a world, please let me know

You missed the point. $13k FD is cheaper than RJ's ITR, so yes, FD > riced civic

[Mike]

you missed the point.

fd track costs + fd maintenance + fd insurance + fd initial cost > itr track costs + itr maintenance + itr insurance + itr initial cost

[.RJ]

Hey evan, why arent you tracking the WRX anymore?

[JackoliciousLegs]

but you can't deny the UNBELIEVABLE HOTNESS lol

[Evan]

16" tires arent significantly much more than 15"s
A balanced car will wear tires better than a front heavy fwd.
As well braked relatively light rwd car, brake costs will be similar.
Initial cost of an ITR is more. Insurance is sure-as-shit more. ITR maintenence should be less, but ive seen way too many smoking and ill-engined ITRs at the track to assume that the engine will go a good long time either

in the end, I dont think you can say an FD will be a whole lot more than an ITR.

[Evan]

Hey evan, why arent you tracking the WRX anymore?

because im making payments on it. one more reason you shouldnt be tracking the R. (but not necessarily a FD either)

[.RJ]

16" tires arent significantly much more than 15"s

They are when you're using falkens and used 205/50/15 R-tires. You can't get 16" r-tires for $100/set all year long. Even going to 17's to use Falkens, they're still $106 (225/45/17) and $114 (245/45/17) each.

A balanced car will wear tires better than a front heavy fwd.

A 250+ rwhp car will wear tires faster than a front heavy fwd car. I have no tire wear issues at all.

As well braked relatively light rwd car, brake costs will be similar.

No, but its a lot faster - more speed = more brakes (ke = 1/2mv^2). It does have a better braking system, so it may just be a draw.

Initial cost of an ITR is more.

They're about equal.

Insurance is sure-as-shit more.

Insurance on a "sports car" is going to be less than an ITR? Probably another draw. I'm paying $60-70/month for the ITR now.

ITR maintenence should be less, but ive seen way too many smoking and ill-engined ITRs at the track to assume that the engine will go a good long time either

I've seen several ITR's with well over 100K at the track, their engines are fine. I havent had to put any additional $$ into maintenance this year, or have any unexpected costs.

in the end, I dont think you can say an FD will be a whole lot more than an ITR.

j00 are high

[Maengelito]

it doesnt matter, i havent seen .RJ at the track since he took his new job anyway

[Mike]

yeah, he doesn't go. he got owned.

[Kaan]

I have no tire wear issues at all.

ok sir chunks alot

[.RJ]

[ScottyB]

would an FD really be that hard to maintain for track use? sure, it might be wise to upgrade the apex seals, and take a good look at the cooling system, but i think mazda had competition in mind with that car and tested it for that environment accordingly.