Will non-nascar racing network work?
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white_2kgt Wrote:Dude, out in the mid-west, that's all there is, circle/dirt track racing. I bet you'd loose that bet.

I dunno, I know there are some autocross nationals winners that come from bumfuck Idaho so whatever. Loop de loop racing < road racing fur mee
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Goodspeed Wrote:My uncle used to be a circle dirt track racer and I never heard him or any one else at the track talk about Nascar, I'm sure some are fans however. But I would bet money that there are more active autocrossers and road racers in this country then there are dirt track racers/circle track racers, so why Nascar has a more active fanbase is a mystery to me.
Its not rocket science. NASCAR does a bunch of things right that all of the other racing series in the United States dont. Just a short list off the top of my head

*NASCAR goes out of it's way to promote the drivers
*They consistently visit the same venues
*They do a lot of regional marketing to get attendance at their venues
*Tickets are priced correctly
*They have a good website
*NASCAR takes merchandising seriously
*They've kept costs relatively low

Right off the bat I can say none of NASCAR's competitors in the US hit on all of those points, and of course there are plenty more things that NASCAR has going for them.
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#23
Don't forget my favorite nascar rule... They allow you to bring a cooler of your own beer up to your seat if your at the race. Granted, it's a relatively small cooler, but that makes going to the race much more interesting.
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Goodspeed Wrote:My uncle used to be a circle dirt track racer and I never heard him or any one else at the track talk about Nascar, I'm sure some are fans however. But I would bet money that there are more active autocrossers and road racers in this country then there are dirt track racers/circle track racers, so why Nascar has a more active fanbase is a mystery to me.

Depends on what you consider active. I've never been to an autocross (though I'd like to) but thats not something I think most people would be as serious about as dirt track racers. There are a shit ton of dirt tracks across the country that race every weekend, sometimes multiple times a week, and a lot have a big car count every weekend. Most dirt guys race every weekend.

Within 3 hours of Winchester, there are probably 6-10 dirt tracks that race saturday nights, and this is not really a prime area for dirt racing. I've been to a weekend event at Winchester speedway that 120 cars for the four cylinder class, not to mention all of the Late models, limited lates and pure stocks.

I'm not sure that there are more active dirt racers than autocrosser/road racers, but I guarantee you'll find more people at amatuer circle tracks than you will at a typical NASA MA event.


Anyway, back to the point, advertisers take their money where is of most benefit, and as long as NASCAR is the most popular, they're going to advertise there instead of anywhere else. In fact, I've found that a lot of the companies who used to debut commericals during the Super Bowl are now debuting commercials during the Daytona 500, because its nearly as popular, and the driver's the sponsor are sometimes the biggest celebrity involved with the company.

I'd like to see a channel with more dirt track racing, because for me, thats where I get my racing kicks.

If anyone wants a racing network to have a chance, its your job to promote the channel, different types of racing, and try to get everyone you know into it. That is how NASCAR started getting popular, and thats the only way any other racing series/channel is going to get popular.
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NTIman Wrote:
Goodspeed Wrote:My uncle used to be a circle dirt track racer and I never heard him or any one else at the track talk about Nascar, I'm sure some are fans however. But I would bet money that there are more active autocrossers and road racers in this country then there are dirt track racers/circle track racers, so why Nascar has a more active fanbase is a mystery to me.

Depends on what you consider active. I've never been to an autocross (though I'd like to) but thats not something I think most people would be as serious about as dirt track racers. There are a shit ton of dirt tracks across the country that race every weekend, sometimes multiple times a week, and a lot have a big car count every weekend. Most dirt guys race every weekend.

Exactly. Autocross what? 15x/yr? You can dirt track every weekend and only travel maybe 1-2hrs. I'd say its the second most active motorsport behind dragracing that the average joe gets into.
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A part of me thinks that there's a core of diehard Nascar fans that will stick but like anything else, there's large contingent that would be easily peeled away. I suspect that Nascar is popular because it's advertised well and that's because their races are nothing more than theatre with a bunch of adverts.

I also read somewhere that Nascar fans have really strong brand loyalties.

Alright, this might be stunning to you but back in 5th grade ('91-'92), I was really into Nascar and from what I can remember, it was a lot more like racing than it is now. The drivers were also a lot dirtier(both figuratively and literally) back then too which I liked.
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#27
Man, I absolutely LOVED nascar back when I was like 10. (90s) Every sunday I'd beg dad to let me watch the race! Now I'm begging the wife :roll:
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