GreenFlag Wrote:Some changes have been made since that track map was put together. The full course is now planned to be just over 3 miles and the East Course just over 2 miles (similar lengths to VIR).
They plan on opening the track in phases....first phase will be the East Course which should be open by mid-2006. Second phase will be West opening by 2008.
The track will run counter-clockwise.
Quote:there aren't that many people around that area. Compared to other tracks in the region.
DC, NoVa, Tidewater, Baltimore, Philly? Seems like a pretty good market to me.
awesome stuff, do you have anything do to with the new track, or just know more about it?
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Chris Wrote:GreenFlag Wrote:Some changes have been made since that track map was put together. The full course is now planned to be just over 3 miles and the East Course just over 2 miles (similar lengths to VIR).
They plan on opening the track in phases....first phase will be the East Course which should be open by mid-2006. Second phase will be West opening by 2008.
The track will run counter-clockwise.
Quote:there aren't that many people around that area. Compared to other tracks in the region.
DC, NoVa, Tidewater, Baltimore, Philly? Seems like a pretty good market to me.
awesome stuff, do you have anything do to with the new track, or just know more about it? I meant in the genral vicinity. It's damn near close to a lot if you consider a day drive. But people in Philly won't complain about noise in New Kent will they? The track has been on the table for a while as mentioned before. But, the few people who have lived around there a long time, and also the people with huge acrage have enough pull it seems to make it not a straight shot thing.
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Myuki Wrote:there aren't that many people around that area. Compared to other tracks in the region. you get a :?:
there are over 1 million people living in the hampton roads area alone, add that to Richmond, DC in a 2 hour radius. Its actually one of the best spots you can build a track.
Myuki Wrote:I meant in the genral vicinity. It's damn near close to a lot if you consider a day drive.
most racers or track enthusiasts regularly travel 6+ hours to get to venues. track builders do not count on the locals to fill the place.
Myuki Wrote:But people in Philly won't complain about noise in New Kent will they?
:?:
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both of your :?: s fail.
The first was a failure to read, the other was a failure to comprehend.
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lol nice try, but you are digging yourself deeper.
since you seem to have forgotten what you wrote,
Myuki Wrote:there aren't that many people around that area. Compared to other tracks in the region. I already showed you how that is an incorrect statement, but why dont you go ahead and explain it since apparently I just couldnt seem to comprehend it.
Chris Wrote:awesome stuff, do you have anything do to with the new track, or just know more about it?
I've been meeting with the owners through my job.
Some have been critical on other boards about the time that it has taken to get this track open, but I think the owners are being cautious and trying to roll this out in a very conservative way so as not to a) burn through their investors' money and b) tick off the neighbors, especially those who were the NIMBY's at the beginning of the process.
They have a really good plan for this facility, and it will be a great place to visit, not only with Williamsburg down the highway, but also with golf courses and winery that are being built in New Kent around the Colonial Downs exit.
mmmm winery + track weekend = good times had by all
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Evan Wrote:lol nice try, but you are digging yourself deeper.
since you seem to have forgotten what you wrote,
Myuki Wrote:there aren't that many people around that area. Compared to other tracks in the region. I already showed you how that is an incorrect statement, but why dont you go ahead and explain it since apparently I just couldnt seem to comprehend it. Directly around the track. Like RIR here, there is your buffer area, and other trees, but then there are neighborhoods and city like 5 minutes away. When I said in that area, it meant the general vicinity, compared, as in, well, compared to, other tracks around the regions close proximity. I say there aren't that many people in the area, and you start talking about Philly and DC, which last itme i checked wasn't close to New Kent, however, Mike chimed in that people would normally drive long distances for track weekends. But, those people aren't locals to the track area.
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I think Froede was pointing out that there are not a lot of locals who live close enough to the track for noise to be a problem. Regionally it will be closer to Richmond than VIR which will be a big plus and of course now we'll have 4 facilities within 5 hours. Counting all the different configurations we'll have about 8 tracks (that could possibly host and event on the same weekend) within 5 hours, possibly 9 if Beaverun ever gets around to building its second course.
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Myuki Wrote:Directly around the track. Like RIR here, there is your buffer area, and other trees, but then there are neighborhoods and city like 5 minutes away. When I said in that area, it meant the general vicinity, compared, as in, well, compared to, other tracks around the regions close proximity. I say there aren't that many people in the area, and you start talking about Philly and DC, which last itme i checked wasn't close to New Kent, however, Mike chimed in that people would normally drive long distances for track weekends. But, those people aren't locals to the track area. Its ok that you dont have a clue, plenty of people dont. But you need to realize when you are clueless, and listen to the people that do.
Road racing is not Nascar, comparing the two is laughable. Locals simply do not matter.
As has already been pointed out, there are multiple large markets within a 2 hour drive. A 2 hour drive is NOTHING for a road course. A 4 hour drive is reasonable, and even 8 hour trip is relatively common. DC is close. Hamtpon Roads/VA Beach/Tidewater is close, and yes even Philly and Raliegh are considered close. It really doesnt matter if you dont think its close, the people that race, and go to these tracks make the trip.
Ive taken the time to explain this to you twice, If you want to stay stubborn and clueless, thats your choice but Im not going to waste my time on it any longer.
Mike Wrote:mmmm winery + track weekend = good times had by all winery? what a fag
Evan Wrote:Mike Wrote:mmmm winery + track weekend = good times had by all winery? what a fag
chicks like wine, know the right one and score!
counterclockwise would be cool, why do ALL others go clockwise?! :?: What, am I supposed to rotate my tires to make the wear even or something? 
Evan Wrote:Mike Wrote:mmmm winery + track weekend = good times had by all winery? what a fag
Dunno...it seems to work for Infineon and Watkins Glen.
Evan Wrote:Mike Wrote:mmmm winery + track weekend = good times had by all winery? what a fag
don't hate me cause i have some class.
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GreenFlag Wrote:Evan Wrote:Mike Wrote:mmmm winery + track weekend = good times had by all winery? what a fag
Dunno...it seems to work for Infineon and Watkins Glen.
hell yeah, Upstate NY is known for its wine (used to live near the Glen). oh and welcome to the forum by the way!
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Chris Wrote:hell yeah, Upstate NY is known for its wine (used to live near the Glen). oh and welcome to the forum by the way!
Last time I was at Infineon, we went up to Petaluma to visit the TRG shop. The owner also owns Adobe Road Winery...and has put a wine tasting room in their shop. Very nice...
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As for the winery at the racetrack, think of it this way...it'll give your girlfriend/wife one more reason to come to the track with you.
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Evan Wrote:Myuki Wrote:Directly around the track. Like RIR here, there is your buffer area, and other trees, but then there are neighborhoods and city like 5 minutes away. When I said in that area, it meant the general vicinity, compared, as in, well, compared to, other tracks around the regions close proximity. I say there aren't that many people in the area, and you start talking about Philly and DC, which last itme i checked wasn't close to New Kent, however, Mike chimed in that people would normally drive long distances for track weekends. But, those people aren't locals to the track area. Its ok that you dont have a clue, plenty of people dont. But you need to realize when you are clueless, and listen to the people that do.
Road racing is not Nascar, comparing the two is laughable. Locals simply do not matter.
As has already been pointed out, there are multiple large markets within a 2 hour drive. A 2 hour drive is NOTHING for a road course. A 4 hour drive is reasonable, and even 8 hour trip is relatively common. DC is close. Hamtpon Roads/VA Beach/Tidewater is close, and yes even Philly and Raliegh are considered close. It really doesnt matter if you dont think its close, the people that race, and go to these tracks make the trip.
Ive taken the time to explain this to you twice, If you want to stay stubborn and clueless, thats your choice but Im not going to waste my time on it any longer. I don't see how i compared the two. It doesn't matter what racing it is on what track, noise is noise. Apparently, you are clueless to what is actually at discussion here.
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