12-07-2004, 09:17 PM
I almost bought a 1999 996 with 20k miles for $31k not too long ago. Had the loan check and everything.
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12-07-2004, 09:17 PM
I almost bought a 1999 996 with 20k miles for $31k not too long ago. Had the loan check and everything.
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12-07-2004, 09:35 PM
BassmanGrammy Wrote:Dude....the deal right now is a '97 - '99 boxster. Don't get the civic, if you have a real job, you need a real car. Of the list, I'd choose the WRX. TSX and IS are going to be expensive. M3 and Cobra would come in 2 and 3 respectively. But just don't get a civic. it's not the size of the car, it's what you do with it :wink:
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12-07-2004, 10:46 PM
i certainly wouldn't buy a civic if you're looking at those other cars... it is a totally different machine.
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12-07-2004, 10:59 PM
How so?
I mean the more expensive the car it seems the harder it is to work on it, and the more problems that could result because of the aforementioned.
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12-07-2004, 11:07 PM
a civic is... a civic. no matter what motor you put in it you're stilling driving an economy car. also, how would you put a motor in? they don't drop themselves in and wire themselves up...
all of the other cars and nice cars... stock. they will drop panties (most of them)... no matter how nice you make your civic, it will not drop the panties... plain and simple. i'm not thinking straight ere and i'm sure what i'm trying to say could be said more eloquently, but yeah... i'm sure you get the idea.
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12-07-2004, 11:51 PM
MichaelJComputer Wrote:how would you put a motor in? they don't drop themselves in and wire themselves up... mine basically does ![]() but yeah, im with Mike.. whatever way you look at its an econobox..
12-08-2004, 01:14 PM
theguywiththeSi Wrote:BassmanGrammy Wrote:Dude....the deal right now is a '97 - '99 boxster. Don't get the civic, if you have a real job, you need a real car. Of the list, I'd choose the WRX. TSX and IS are going to be expensive. M3 and Cobra would come in 2 and 3 respectively. But just don't get a civic. Jayray...I wasn't busting on the Si. In my mind, especially current gens, the Si is a different car entirally.
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12-08-2004, 01:35 PM
Feersty Wrote:Yeah the Boxster just doesn't do it for me, It is small, and can't carry alot, and the insurance will be hella expensive for a 22-23 year old. I can't even believe you said this. The truth is that you're going to pay out your nose for ANY of those cars, with the possible exception of the Civic. Honestly, I'd be willing to bet 5 dollars that the boxster wasn't more than 3% more than the TSX/IS. This is all masturbation anyway.
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12-08-2004, 02:31 PM
BassmanGrammy Wrote:theguywiththeSi Wrote:BassmanGrammy Wrote:Dude....the deal right now is a '97 - '99 boxster. Don't get the civic, if you have a real job, you need a real car. Of the list, I'd choose the WRX. TSX and IS are going to be expensive. M3 and Cobra would come in 2 and 3 respectively. But just don't get a civic. you're goofy. the ep? yes. any si before that? same car, couple of things bolted on.
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12-08-2004, 03:21 PM
you're driving a civic...you would know...but what I was speaking on was the current civic and mainly the Team Honda Civic that won the overall 13hour at VIR
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12-08-2004, 10:11 PM
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2003 Lexus IS300 2003 Mustang Cobra/Mach1 2002 Subaru Impreza WRX 1999-2000 Civic Coupe/Sedan/Hatch with B18C5 2004 Acura TSX Well first thing is what exactly you're going to use the car for. If you're going to be using the car for track events/daily driver I'd go for an option that is cheaper. That means M3, Civic, or WRX. I'd also choose those 3 cars if I was looking to modify them. If you are looking for a comfortable daily driver that might see the occasional autocross or track day once in a long while, then I'd go for the IS, TSX, and again, the M3. The Mustang doesn't really fit in with the rest of the cars for me so I'd choose that if I wanted a balls out high power car. In that case I'd have to consider a C5 Vette as well. Basically my advice is to determine what exactly you are looking to accomplish with the car so you can figure out what car meets those goals. All of your choices are good in one way or another but your goals will make a few stand out. For those saying the Civic is just a Civic, you're right and wrong. For bling factor or whatever its at the bottom of the list but for cost of ownership/operation, speed, and aftermarket its near the top. The only problem with it would be theft though. Of all the choices I'd say the best balance is the E36 M3 since you can get the speed, comfort, and aftermarket without spending a huge amount of money to buy the car. The IS300 is also a pretty good blend of qualities but I'd go for a 2002 since that's the first year the manual was offered and you can get one for under $24 or so. Still, I'd pick the M3 before the IS.
12-08-2004, 10:23 PM
Semi/Luxury cars are a pain in the nuts. Get a mid 90's sports car i.e. TT Supra or 300zxtt some bucks, throw another 10 G's and you'll own every car on that list, it'll still drop panties and you'll still save money compared to those other cars except the Civic. I know at least 3 guys on this forum will agree.
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12-08-2004, 10:43 PM
jackstands Wrote:Semi/Luxury cars are a pain in the nuts. Get a mid 90's sports car i.e. TT Supra or 300zxtt some bucks, throw another 10 G's and you'll own every car on that list, it'll still drop panties and you'll still save money compared to those other cars except the Civic. I know at least 3 guys on this forum will agree. Either of those cars would be fine if big power is your goal but for a daily driver i wouldn't go that route. Employers don't tend to buy the "my highly modified street car broke down" excuse more than once. The thing with either the Z32 or Supra is that you're going to pay more for a good example or your going to pay more to make it a good example. Not a bad option though if that's your thing.
12-09-2004, 12:51 AM
Thanks for the input Gerald, now I got to start test driving.
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12-09-2004, 01:00 AM
:!: The fun part. :twisted:
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12-09-2004, 01:41 AM
I will definitely be drooling over an e36 m3 come graduation time.... or I'll be drooling over my newly cooled, newly suspensionized track rx7
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12-09-2004, 08:37 AM
G.Irish Wrote:The thing with either the Z32 or Supra is that you're going to pay more for a good example or your going to pay more to make it a good example. If you enjoy pain and thrive on debt, go buy a Z32. I seriously wouldn't touch one of these cars without at least 5-6k in cash above and beyond the purchase price. I've put a little over 3k into mine so far, and I'm still not even close... And as far as I'm concerned, it holds just as true for an 80k-mile car as it does for a 140k-mile car. But holy shit its fast hock:(w00t for 666 posts!)
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12-09-2004, 08:47 AM
jackstands Wrote:Semi/Luxury cars are a pain in the nuts. Get a mid 90's sports car i.e. TT Supra or 300zxtt some bucks, throw another 10 G's and you'll own every car on that list, it'll still drop panties and you'll still save money compared to those other cars except the Civic. I know at least 3 guys on this forum will agree. That may be a far fetch to say that. For a good example of a TT 6-speed supra your looking at AT LEAST 24/25k. And thats with mileage in the 80s probably. Drop another 10k and your at about 35k and thats more than anything on his list. Not to mention the maintance on a 600hp car (wouldn't take 10gs to get you that number either) because your looking at tires more often, gas, shit breaking, etc. Feeding the boost habit can get expensive.
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12-09-2004, 09:35 AM
Ryan T Wrote:jackstands Wrote:Semi/Luxury cars are a pain in the nuts. Get a mid 90's sports car i.e. TT Supra or 300zxtt some bucks, throw another 10 G's and you'll own every car on that list, it'll still drop panties and you'll still save money compared to those other cars except the Civic. I know at least 3 guys on this forum will agree. Granted I haven't researched the Supra TT as well as the z32 but why the 6-sp, why not a earlier year w/ the 5sp, wouldn't that be cheaper? That would drop the purchase price. Who said anything about a 600 hp, anything above 300whp would be crazy and beyond my comprehension. From the little that I've read, one would not have to upgrade turbos in order to break that goal, breathing upgrades and engine tuning is all that's require. Please correct if I'm wrong. I don't know Feersty's situation. Maybe he wants a nice car that he can track without having to maintain it. I don't know. I was just sharing my bias and preference. Buying an older car with a lot of potential, and drop coin in mods, not purchase price/insurance/taxes/etc etc. If I was in Feersty's situation and had majored in something that paid money, I would buy a s14, sr20det swap, big turbo and call it the day. But that's just me. If I was really loaded, Z32 would be it. From what I've gathered on the Z32 board, owning one is something like a red badge of courage. I rather like that.
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12-09-2004, 09:47 AM
TT supra was only offered in six speed or automatic. Only NA had the 5-speed. Stock HP for TT supra is 320 at crank, with ~$2000 in mods, you can easily put down 350-375 to the wheels without risking much of anything in terms of breaking. Simply opening up the exhaust, increasing the boost, and giving it an intake will net you those gains. Add some cams and a bigger turbo and you'll get massive gains. I've owned my supra for three years in January and the only thing that I've replaced that "went out" on me was my starter. From what I understand, the TTs are just as reliable, despite the boost; maybe I'll be able to actually say whether or not it is someday.
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