04-17-2018, 11:17 AM
(This post was last modified: 04-17-2018, 11:23 AM by Eco_Boi_Stephen.)
(04-17-2018, 09:28 AM)Eco_Boi_Stephen Wrote:Not* from(04-17-2018, 09:02 AM)JPolen01 Wrote:Sorry maybe what I said was unclear. 20 minutes is still a decent amount of time. I'm not saying turn gas stations into charging stations but rather to have gas stations that also offer charging stations. The store owners would surely benefit from customers staying at a station for 20 minutes rather than just pumping gas and going. They make money off of sales in their store but from electricity used/gas pumped.(04-17-2018, 09:00 AM)Eco_Boi_Stephen Wrote: Longer charging times = more moneys for those guys at least.
But that's not the case. Porsche says the chargers will charge to 80% in 20 minutes. I think Tesla is around 40 minutes for an 80% charge on a supercharger right now. The chargers are too expensive to be set up like a gas station IMO. They need to be in a parking lot with tons of chargers. Maybe it could work set up like this with a convenience store in the lot.
Charging stations are definitely a better fit for garages and places where you intend to leave your car for long periods of time.
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(04-17-2018, 11:12 AM)Senor_Taylor Wrote: Gas sales are volume based. The margins are small, if even non existent and stores make profit based on sales inside the store. (Sheetz sells at a loss occasionally).Are the gas stations the ones paying to install charging stations? I don't think that's how it is atm.
An expensive charging station would not be offset by the small amount that someone is going to spend when they stop, and people aren't going to spend more than $5 on other things every time they charge.
Automakers have to build the stations since they are needed infrastructure to sell their cars. They are not making money on these, instead they're a necessary cost with getting the cars sold.
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Are companies like Tesla basically renting that space for their charging stations?
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