Automotive News Discussion

[ScottyB]

which is a freaking travesty

The true travesty is what's happened to pretty much the whole line of cars from Lotus and Subaru

thing is, those aren't icons like the mustang - those either were, or are, very quirky niche vehicles that are trying to survive in a very crowded market. Subaru realizes it can't build products like turbocharged legacy-caminos and be competitve in the US, so they're Toyota'ing everything to survive. Lotus, like Porsche needs a diverse product line to supplement their halo car, so they have to go down the "get big add content" path with new offerings. it totally sucks, and i wish they'd all stop getting so damn fat, too.

its worth mentioning i think Lotus is at the very bottom of the list of manufacturers with a bulk problem though :lol:

but it still epitomizes the long hood/short deck, 2-door, RWD, V8 powered, 4-seat, pony car

yes i know. that's why i like them. in fact i've become quite a mustang fanboi lately...i'd do unwholesome things for an 08 highland green Bullitt, or a comp orange termi.

The Camaro is heavy compared to Fords offering. The Challenger is a four door land yacht that's had two of its doors lopped off.

no sir i don't wish to drive a dump truck


i don't mind that mustangs are heavy cars - that's part of the game if you want a car that's got a back seat and a big engine. but man, if its 2015, and you're starting out with a fresh, clean sheet design on your wildly popular sports coupe (which is about to go international for reals), i feel like its not unreasonable to expect that engineers would either be able to find ways to drop weight through better materials or through better packaging and leverage the scale of it all enough to not raise prices drastically. my whole beef is that i thought this time around, they'd be able to get it near 3500 lbs and really rock socks.

i also get that every car will gain weight through content, its inescapable. but for me though...performance numbers be damned, where do you draw the line with any vehicle that has sporting intentions? 2 tons? doesn't Ford have access to a titanic new supply of aluminum building processes thanks to the '15 F150? its only the most popular thing on 4 wheels in the history of space and time...why not bring that into the fold for the stang. its gotta be worth at least 200 pounds.

anyway. maybe my expectations are stupid. i love the stang for what it is, but i just thought this would be such a prime chance for Ford to hack a few pounds off and really bring the performance envelope to life.