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G.Irish Wrote:Eh, I'm sure people who rode horses to work said the same things about cars. 'What about the connection to your steed?' 'What about the horsemanship skills you had to master over a lifetime?' 'Anybody can drive a car, not everyone can ride a horse.'

Apples to Oranges, and not really my point. People aren't careening around our highways on 4000lbs horses at 75mph on the phone. But if you want to talk about horses, think if there was some equestrian equipment that allowed such exacting control of the horse that it would be impossible to spook them unless taken to the very extreme? It would be much much safer for riders, but old fogey's like me would surely bang on for ages, advocating learning to use the old equipment and feel out the edge so you can respect what you're in control of.

Having to work harder at something makes you respect it more. In an environment with so many people in huge automatic SUVs, I'm proud to be a hold out.

Ryan T Wrote:If you reread that everything you said can be applied to tons of newer vehicles too. Take my jeep for instance. I have to plan ahead to slow down, and changing lanes at speed can almost always be an adventure. Or hell, drive a Prius for 60 or 70 miles and you can get the same feeling. Not having enough power to merge at speed can be a very eventful way to drive. Am I missing the "essence" of what you are saying? Yeah, intentionally, but exciting "i might die" driving is certaintly confined to old 1970s manual transmission cars. Hell my vette with no abs or traction in the rain gives me that feeling.

Its hard for me to really vocalize what I'm thinking here. I drive my parent's enormous F-250 Diesel with a worn out steering rack all the time. It falls into the same catagory, slow, heavy, hard to slow down, hard to control, takes a lot more concentration and planning. But there is something about an old German sports car, we're talking like, when Porsches were sold in America as cheap imports, that you can't put your finger on that's wholly terrifying and awe inspiring and erotic all at the same time.

The M3 has no traction control and has been freaky at times, but it doesn't compare to the 100% all the time work it takes to drive one of those old things. Maybe I can get my boss to let me arrange a 914 gangbang to see if people have the same experience.

For the record, a 914, especially one in this condition is not an expensive car in the slightest. One in this condition might be worth 5k? Maybe? A mint, virgin one goes for like 13k.

Ryan T Wrote:That's a bit absurd; why make kids drive something that they will likely never have to drive again? Hell, make them all get CDLs too so they know what it's like to drive a 60,000lb truck with a 60' trailer...just so they know. Smile

Well yeah, that's my point really. I'd like to see what driving a truck is like. Although something like I said would give them something comparable to a normal passenger car without any assists, so they can appreciate what they are really pushing around out there.
Now: 07 Porsche Cayman S | 18 VW Tiguan

Then: 18 VW GTI Autobahn | 95 BMW M3 | 15 VW GTI SE | 12 Kia Optima SX | 2009 VW GTI | 00 BMW 540i Sport | 90 Mazda Miata | 94 Yamaha FZR600R | 1993 Suzuki GS500E | 2003 BMW 325i | 95 Saab 900S




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