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International rules to apply to all law enforcement agencies. Our current system is much "nicer" than the international law we agreed to.

The fact is we dont know what they had. Only the people with much more law enforcement experience knew if they could get a warrent... they didnt think it was possible with that they had. Who are we to say they did? I've only been schooled in it, i've never actually saught a warrent... but i do know a lot depends on the judges interpritation and if they didnt think they could pull it they were just wasting if they tried. we can play monday morning quarterback on that situation all day. the fact is the proffesionals involved didnt feel the warrent could be obtained.

No Kaan, do not make excuses for the incompetence that cost 3,000 Americans their lives. The FBI agents on the ground who actually had Moussaoui in custody and presented evidence to their superiors that this guy was involved with terrorism and confirmed evidence that he was taking flight training knew something was up. Those professionals in their judgment had all of the evidence that they needed to determine that this guy was an imminent terrorist threat. But their superiors sat on their hands and didn't even try. Sorry, that doesn't cut it. If there is a chance that many lives will be lost if this guy gets to enact his plan, then they had damned well seek a warrant. I can guarantee you that if that happened now they wouldn't even wait for a warrant.

As for Sibel Edmonds you have an FBI agent who was tasked with translating intelligence who was told by superiors to slow down so they could get more budget for the next year. A woman who found that one of her coworkers was very likely acting on behalf of a foreign government and giving false translations on documents that could've helped prevent 9/11. She blew the whistle on her coworkers and superiors and she was fired.

There is absolutely no reason to make excuses for incompetence and cowardice in our own government.