10-02-2007, 10:22 AM
Mike Wrote:Nobody is arguing that natural fluctuations don't occur.heh, these signs dont always mean the sky is falling, but this time it really does! they they are just arguing that the fluctuations that we are seeing now, are not only caused by us, but have catastrophic consequences (despite periods in history where it was significantly warmer than the alarmists predict)
back in the 70s when we were in a cooling trend (despite more carbon emissions year over year--oops!) the climatologists were predicting a second ice age. gotta get those funding $
hurro indeed.
heh. "my guys have data"
"your" guys have "data" based on computer climate models. my guys have data based on...uh...what has actually happened
some interesting links that I had handy, although im fairly sure that you arent genuinely interested in both sides of the debate anyway.
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UK channel 4 put out a great documentary called The great global warming swindle. do a search for it on google video.
cnn also did a documentary "Climate of Fear: Global warming exposed"
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