The market is BEGGING....

[BLINGMW]

:lol: I love it

[JPolen01]

LOL, so true. This one is the worst

Toyota Supra commercial

A minute of my life I will never get back

[Goodspeed]

Some new pics/info...

Edmund's first drive write-up.

http://www.insideline.com/toyota/86/2013...drive.html

"This is our second time behind the wheel of the 2013 Toyota 86...sort of. Last month we sampled a prototype of the 2013 Scion FR-S, which is an 86 dressed for the American market. After that drive we said the Scion is small, light and nimble ÔÇö everything a good sports car should be ÔÇö and we speculated that it might be the best car in a decade. Well, now we've tossed the little coupe around again, and with every mile behind the wheel that suspicion is growing into a deep-rooted belief."

"Despite this, at its best, the 2013 Toyota 86's driving experience is a match for the likes of a Porsche Cayman, and accolades don't come much higher than that. "

Looks like they stole some cars from the Toyota USA museum in LA. I've drooled over a few of these individually before



Scion FR-S tuned by Greddy







From another forum

Just got off a call with the head of customer relations of a local Toyota/Scion dealer, who I've known for many years. I then spoke to the manager of Scions at the dealer, who said he is "hearing" these cars should hit dealers in March and pricing should be low $20ks and many features coming standard. I've now exchanged emails with the Scion Manager and will be informed of any new information or events regarding the FRS. I can tell you my friend and the Scion manager are extremely excited about this car.

[ScottyB]

what's that rather large hose coming off the 90deg bend in the intake? Is that just PCV valve? Seems large for some reason. :dunno:

i was wondering the exact same thing. EGR probably wouldn't make sense so i guess PCV?

just found out that its actually a duct for piping engine sound into the interior :roll: the big thing on the pipe is a membrane.

i'm sure one of the first DIY mods for these cars, and every aftermarket intake will include lopping that thing off.

[BLINGMW]

just found out that its actually a duct for piping engine sound into the interior :roll:

:lol: GONE

[G.Irish]

BRZ GT300 racecar vid: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LjYl7VfFKE">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LjYl7VfFKE</a><!-- m -->

[caa337]

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Sounds good

[Evan]

it sounds good for an inline, but nowhere near as good as a boxer should. Those equal length headers do neuter the sound

[Steve85]

WTF did he say at 3:58 :lol: :lol: :lol:

[BLINGMW]

WTF did he say at 3:58 :lol: :lol: :lol:

I don't know but the subtitles weren't helping me much anyway. I saw a musical note in one of them. :dunno:

BRZ GT300 racecar vid: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LjYl7VfFKE">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LjYl7VfFKE</a><!-- m -->

Awesome shots, that was really neat :bow: "Proud of BOXER" is like, a little dose of engrish in there though. lol

Tell me what these "equal length headers" complaints are please. In any other car that's a good thing. BOXER do not want? :dunno:

[RawrImAMonster]

WTF did he say at 3:58 :lol: :lol: :lol:

I don't know but the subtitles weren't helping me much anyway. I saw a musical note in one of them. :dunno:

BRZ GT300 racecar vid: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LjYl7VfFKE">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LjYl7VfFKE</a><!-- m -->

Awesome shots, that was really neat :bow: "Proud of BOXER" is like, a little dose of engrish in there though. lol

Tell me what these "equal length headers" complaints are please. In any other car that's a good thing. BOXER do not want? :dunno:

Mostly people are just complaining because unequal length headers are what make the burbley sound that boxers are known for (think STi).

[ScottyB]

the unequal length headers aren't really condusive to making power in the N/A boxers. boosted cars, doesn't matter as much. the characteristic suby sound is simply from those UEL headers. put equal lengths on, and "ew sounds like a honda", but you're making more power so i don't think its a bad thing.

[BLINGMW]

hm yeah, ok thank you both. I'll take power over sound. :thumbup:

[JPolen01]

I may be late to the party with this one, but fuck it

A representative of Subaru of America confirmed today that the company plans to build turbocharged versions of the 2.0-liter flat-four engine that recently made its debut in the companies all-new BRZ sports coupe ÔÇô and in the Toyota 86/GT86 and Scion FR-S variants.
The new turbocharged variant will be based on the FA20 engine, which utilizes square architecture (86mm x 86mm bore and stroke) and the D4S port and direct injection fuel system co-developed with Toyota. FA series engines also boast more compact dimensions over the current FB-series of Subaru flat-flours that power the current line of Foresters.
The engines will be produced at the companyÔÇÖs Oizumi engine plant (where all Subaru engines are built) which is located at the Gunma Main Plant, where the BRZ and all Toyota/Scion variants are being produced. No details were released regarding turbo size, engine output, or future applications for the new powerplant (or which markets will receive it), but weÔÇÖd have to think the BRZ would be on that list.
That doesnÔÇÖt mean it will be the first application however. Earlier this year, Subaru released the all-new Impreza compact sedan and 5-door, recent product cycle history suggests that the all-wheel drive, turbocharged WRX variant is coming soon.
Does that mean the next generation WRX get the new FA20 turbo engine? Well it certainly would benefit from the compact dimensions of the FA20 and its claimed 30mpg hwy fuel efficiency rating (as a naturally aspirated starting point). Back when the Impreza was launched, Subaru did mention how it wanted to increase differentiation between the Impreza and WRX lines, so this could be the way; Impreza retains FB series engines (larger, oversquare architecture without D4S direct injection to keep costs down), WRX/STI gets the more compact (for better handling) D4S equipped FA20.


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[CaptainHenreh]

Not really news. F207A, anyone? Anyway, turbocharged BRZ engine != turbocharged BRZ, although I'd like it a lot more if it were.

Really, this makes a ton of sense. DI goes with Turbos like Peanut butter and jelly.

[ScottyB]

there's no way they weren't going to turbo the BRZ. just a matter of time.

[G.Irish]

Not much to see here, but some nice photos: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.frs-scion.com/">http://www.frs-scion.com/</a><!-- m -->

[CaptainHenreh]

Interesting packaging for le turbocharger.

[ScottyB]

would that not heat the shit out of the oil pan? on the other hand, at least you don't have to screw with the typical subaru up-pipe contortion act.

[Goodspeed]

Greddy FR-S at Cars & Coffee in Irvine, CA at...Mazda HQ. Throwing down the gauntlet?