Smooth Braking and Turning
#21
I am probably the wrong person to ask about technique and the finer points of racecar driving... I couldnt even tell you where I brake or turn in for T10 or T3 at summit. I just drive the car Smile I have a really good feel for where to turn, and how fast I ought to be going, I know when I'm going to leave the pavement if I dont tighten my line or say off the loud pedal.
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
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#22
haha i'm with you ryan... i just drive the damn car... i turn when i feel it is time, i stop when i feel it is time... i don't use markers at all Tongue
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#23
i'm kinda the same way. I've found reference markers for a lot of turns, although I don't usually remember them until my pace lap :-), but i adjust around them every lap, depeding on previous laps, how the car feels, etc.
Andy, in the instances that you do get on the brakes too early (NOT too hard, since you should be at full braking nearly the entire time after ramping up progressively) it is critical that you learn from it and tell yourself to brake earlier. However at that particular moment, it allows you to get on the gas earlier which should give you a higher exit speed. Also consider you may be over-slowing the car. Hell, you might even find that you like being able to get on the gas earlier, since it can often help to stabilize a car as well.
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#24
Another thing worth mentioning...

At my 3-day SB school at Laguna Seca, the Formula Dodge cars were not equipped with wings. This was disconcerting, to say the least, especially on the front straight, where the car felt very light and unstable. Even without wings, however, Grant and all the other instructors pounded it into our heads that we should go from gas to brake extremely fast and extremely hard. It worked, too.

Edit: Granted, they are still light cars with stiff spring rates, but hopefully you see where I'm going with this. I do realize that some people race their daily driver, so those guys will have to modify the technique accordingly.
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#25
BLINGMW Wrote:
D_Eclipse9916 Wrote:provided the car is a professional car

that may be true, but he clearly applies his technique even in WC. Those cars do NOT have much downforce, and run street legal tires. Sure, they're stiff, and set up correctly, but this isn't like a formula-car-only idea here.

I never said Indy Cars or Foruma cars, I said professional, which typically means a race-driven only vehicle. I am sorry, but my race car IS my daily driver, and therefore 1000 pound spring rates are not on my priority list. It actually is not too bad as my weight transfer allows me to swing the car around used correctly with trail braking.

I am not saying let off the gas slowly and then get on the brakes slowly. In fact do what he says in the article. Let off gas immedaitely, and RAMP up, key word, the braking force. Depending on the vehicle, this can mean slammed on the brakes to slowly adding more and more pressure.
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#26
I am no pro, but I read about what pros do and one mentioned that on the track the best braking technique is a quick jab on the brakes followed by a gradual release of the brake pedal. Not very gradual, but, I think you know what I mean. Look at any Best Motoring video and you would know what I mean...production car or race car. The idea is to throw the weight to the front tires so they can get more grip upon entry into a corner. I think this last part was mentioned before, so sorry if it was.
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