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Obama, wtf... - JackoliciousLegs - 07-10-2008
Way to lie. Asshole.
- Apoc - 07-10-2008
Why do your posts always seem like inside jokes?
- JackoliciousLegs - 07-10-2008
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- G.Irish - 07-10-2008
Welcome the new boss. Same as the old boss.
- WRXtranceformed - 07-10-2008
Another fucking political thread, sweet.
- HAULN-SS - 07-10-2008
Empty rhetoric being overshadowed by charismatic personality: check.
- CaptainHenreh - 07-10-2008
G.Irish Wrote:Welcome the new boss. Same as the old boss.
Boy isn't this the fucking truth.
Hey you know that FISA bill? The one the white house couldn't get passed with a republican majority congress way back yonder? Well lookie here, whaddya know.
It seems like the democrats are using reverse psychology or something.
"We'll do exactly what the white house wants, they won't know what the fuck to do!"
- Ginger0 - 07-10-2008
Politician says one thing, does another. This is news?
Maybe you should come back to this coast, Jack, the hippies are playing games with your head
- ViPER1313 - 07-10-2008
Ginger Wrote:Politician says one thing, does another. This is news?
- Evan - 07-10-2008
Ginger Wrote:Politician says one thing, does another. This is news?Obama is different! He isnt a dirty lying politician! He is hope and change and flowers and puppydogs!
- Mike - 07-10-2008
no rainbows?
- BLINGMW - 07-14-2008
here's another Obama WTF I guess:
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- JackoliciousLegs - 07-14-2008
Nah, I kinda agree. I think all our kids should be bilingual in some way. Maybe it's my liberal eliteyness, but I place a great deal of value on being able to communicate effectively regardless of language barriers, and one of the best ways to learn that is to learn a non-native language. My kids will be bilingual (maybe even know more than 2). That's for sure.
As for Obama, I think that both of his arguments make sense. In a country that has such a large spanish speaking population, we should all be at least trying to learn some spanish... I've tried to (not in school). At the same time, when I visit a foreign country, I try to speak at least a few words in their language, but I know I'll always fall back to english at some point.
I guess I'm a bit biased here though...
- .RJ - 07-14-2008
JackoliciousLegs Wrote:Nah, I kinda agree. I think all our kids should be bilingual in some way
Make everyone else's kids be bilingual. Its the american way :dunno:
- HAULN-SS - 07-14-2008
I never understood how anyone could support that idea. English is the 2nd most commonly spoken language in the world, or maybe first, depending on the dialects you count for the chinese. English is one of the most, if not the most exacting and precise language that there is. This is an important thing for a society to have in order to beecome advanced. All programming languages are based in english, and english is the preferred 2nd language in most countries. Almost all technical and business transactions are done in english. Why would you ever bother to learn a new language other than curiosity, or some job function?
- ViPER1313 - 07-14-2008
No matter what country you go to you should be expected to learn that country's language - residents of that country shouldn't be expected to know yours. If I went to work in or visit a foreign country I go in with the expectation that no one will be able to understand me and I will not be able to understand them unless I know their language. The money that would go towards the aforementioned bilingual education can be much better spent teaching kids about mathematics and technology - skills that will benefit them and this country in the future.
- JackoliciousLegs - 07-14-2008
1. Just because english is the most commonly used language in technology doesn't in any way imply that it's the most common language. Nor does it imply that you need to learn it to live (prosperously) in today's society. At all. AT ALL.
2. Yes, if you travel somewhere else, you need to learn their language. I'm not excusing people from trying to learn english when they move to the US. I am saying that any country experiencing such an influx of immigration of non-native language speakers should be prepared to have a melding of cultures. In Los Angeles, there are 3.3mil native spanish speakers vs 4mil native english speakers. 48% of Latinos described themselves as having limited english proficiency. That's huge right? No. 43% of Asians said the same thing. If I were living in that community, that American community, that subset of our national community, I would make my kids learn spanish, and I'd expect that the spanish kids learned english. I would also teach my kids to be technologically literate. Call it crazy parenting. I'd much prefer my kids to be well rounded than be technological whizzes.
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- JackoliciousLegs - 07-14-2008
One more thing, I'm not saying that we should make it mandatory for all students of public schools learn a second language and that it be spanish.
Oh, and another thing. People in Europe speak more languages than we do. Why? Is that good or bad? Are they more technologically inept than we are? In my industry, they sure aren't.
- Apoc - 07-14-2008
HAULN-SS Wrote:English is one of the most, if not the most exacting and precise language that there is.... Almost all technical and business transactions are done in english.
lol... you made a funny.
They're made in English when people who speak english are one of the parties because they can't be bothered to learn another language. Do you really think that business transactions between two Chinese are made in English? Really?
- JackoliciousLegs - 07-14-2008
Apoc Wrote:I left that one alone.HAULN-SS Wrote:English is one of the most, if not the most exacting and precise language that there is.... Almost all technical and business transactions are done in english.lol... you made a funny