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who's running XP/bootcamp on an Intel mac? - BLINGMW - 10-24-2006
Thoughts anyone?
I'm thinking about getting an iMac, but I want to play PC games on it. If it's not pretty darn compatable, then I'd like to know!
- CaptainHenreh - 10-24-2006
What kind of games?
Maybe you could run a WinXP virtual machine?
- Goodspeed - 10-24-2006
I have an intel iMac 17" and love it....there are some windows emulators you could probably use...hell some shops use them to run AEM EMS software on iBooks for tuning, I'm sure you can find something.
- .RJ - 10-24-2006
Goodspeed Wrote:hell some shops use them to run AEM EMS software on iBooks for tuning, I'm sure you can find something.
Well, the AEM software is a pretty basic application, a bit different from running a racing simulator within an OS emulator.
- Evan - 10-24-2006
emulators are not for games. unless you can load winXP and boot directly into it, you have no chance of playing a game with remotely passable performance (even if DirectX/3D is even included in the emulation, which I doubt)
- BLINGMW - 10-24-2006
hmm... well I don't even know why emulators came up really. Windows runs natively on an Intel Mac. Their machines are some of the fastest PCs out there! From the LFS forums, I see a few people reporting great results, I just wanted to know if anyone had found any popular programs that had problems.
- bassmangrammy - 10-24-2006
I don't have any info yet, but my company is buying me a new PowerMac before the end of the year... I'll have feedback then.
- ViPER1313 - 10-25-2006
We have 2 Mac minis running bootcamp at my work. As far as I know there should be no game compatibility issues as Windows is not being emulated - it is running directly on top of the hardware just like it does on a PC.
- JohnC - 10-25-2006
I've got a bunch of consultants here with fancy new Macs - I can ask them about games.
- .paul - 10-25-2006
i run parallel (VM) on my macbook pro.. had windows and ran WoW with no issues.
- HAULN-SS - 10-25-2006
Just wait and get a new quadcore pc. It'll pwn all.
- CaptainHenreh - 10-25-2006
http://www.vmware.com/mac
- ViPER1313 - 10-25-2006
Bootcamp is not an emulator though - it is basically a boot manager. Emulators create problems and huge performance losses. Windows can run on new Intel based Macs because they use the same hardware that any other X86 based PC does. In theory you should be able to run the newer versions of Mac OS-X on a PC if you wanted to (although I think it is BIOS blocked.)
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- Mike - 10-25-2006
CaptainHenreh Wrote:http://www.vmware.com/mac
vmware will not give you any sort of acceptable gaming performance.
- Maengelito - 10-25-2006
my fucking brain hurts. i have a computer that works some of the time.
- CaptainHenreh - 10-25-2006
Mike Wrote:CaptainHenreh Wrote:http://www.vmware.com/mac
vmware will not give you any sort of acceptable gaming performance.
Well, he hasn't said what he wants to run. VMWare would be cheap and easy. If he wants a PC Gaming Machine, that's what he's going to have to buy. If he wants a bandaid to play some lower end games, there are alternatives. (VMWare would be...acceptable.) I mean, I see no reason to buy a Mac. So...
- white_2kgt - 10-25-2006
CaptainHenreh Wrote:Mike Wrote:CaptainHenreh Wrote:http://www.vmware.com/mac
vmware will not give you any sort of acceptable gaming performance.
Well, he hasn't said what he wants to run. VMWare would be cheap and easy. If he wants a PC Gaming Machine, that's what he's going to have to buy. If he wants a bandaid to play some lower end games, there are alternatives. (VMWare would be...acceptable.) I mean, I see no reason to buy a Mac. So...
Please try and pay attention to the replies that have already been posted BEFORE you post, or atleast read the thread. He was asking about bootcamp, please start here (<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/">http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/</a><!-- m -->) to read up on what it is,
Quote:Run XP natively
Once youÔÇÖve completed Boot Camp, simply hold down the option key at startup to choose between Mac OS X and Windows. (ThatÔÇÖs the ÔÇ£altÔÇØ key for you longtime Windows users.) After starting up, your Mac runs Windows completely natively. Simply restart to come back to Mac.
See it says NATIVELY not VIRTUAL (like VMWare is).
- CaptainHenreh - 10-25-2006
Chad, I DID read the entire thread.
In fact, I read the very first post, where Channing said he wanted to get an iMac, but play PC games on it.
I know bootcamp is a great solution for this problem, but *my* problem is that it's just a dual boot system. Whoopdie do. Depending on what channing wanted to do, a virtualization scheme MIGHT WORK.
If you would read MY post, you would see where I said "vmware would be cheap and easy..." the easy part being key. No rebooting, no dual boot voodoo. Very flexible. Performance hit? Sure. But depending on what he wanted to run, that might not be a big deal.
I know what boot camp is. I know what VMWare is (I work with it every goddamn day) and I know what the difference between the two is. But when Channing said:
BLINGMW Wrote:Thoughts anyone?
I decided to give him mine. I didn't realize there was a rule on this forum against offering possible alternatives. Notice I didn't say "If you want to play PC games, buy a PC." Instead, I gave a possibly viable alternative, and I don't really feel like you were justified in jumping my shit about it.
- white_2kgt - 10-25-2006
CaptainHenreh Wrote:I know bootcamp is a great solution for this problem, but *my* problem is that it's just a dual boot system. Whoopdie do. Depending on what channing wanted to do, a virtualization scheme MIGHT WORK.
We know what he wants to do, he wants to play racing sims on a MAC, which he shouldn't be doing in VMWare and it most likely won't work anyway.
- .RJ - 10-25-2006
white_2kgt Wrote:We know what he wants to do, he wants to play racing sims on a MAC
Does he?
He said "PC Games". Maybe he wants to play minesweeper. *I* said racing sim.