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- Mike - 01-24-2007 white_2kgt Wrote:Mike Wrote:white_2kgt Wrote:Mike Wrote:BLINGMW Wrote:Mike Wrote:...pollute our waterways with salt/sand. wrong. - white_2kgt - 01-24-2007 Mike Wrote:white_2kgt Wrote:Mike Wrote:white_2kgt Wrote:Mike Wrote:BLINGMW Wrote:Mike Wrote:...pollute our waterways with salt/sand. no you are wrong - Mike - 01-24-2007 sigh... "ok." did you not read what lee wrote? he is in the construction business. - .RJ - 01-24-2007 Mike Wrote:sigh... "ok." did you not read what lee wrote? he is in the construction business. Erosion is not the same as "keeping dirt out of the rivers". I'm not sure why you dont see the difference. - Mike - 01-24-2007 .RJ Wrote:Mike Wrote:sigh... "ok." did you not read what lee wrote? he is in the construction business. WRXtranceformed Wrote:It serves both purposes actually. When I was out in the field, the VA and Federal DEQ were just as strict about erosion / sediment control guidelines as OSHA was about jobsite safety. hello? - white_2kgt - 01-24-2007 .RJ Wrote:Mike Wrote:sigh... "ok." did you not read what lee wrote? he is in the construction business. duh, "Mikey Rules" :roll: - Mike - 01-24-2007 white_2kgt Wrote:.RJ Wrote:Mike Wrote:sigh... "ok." did you not read what lee wrote? he is in the construction business. yeah, they're called "i'm not an idiot, i read things, i know about the world." - ScottyB - 01-24-2007 Mike Wrote:WRXtranceformed Wrote:It serves both purposes actually. When I was out in the field, the VA and Federal DEQ were just as strict about erosion / sediment control guidelines as OSHA was about jobsite safety. sediment control is more about pollution and not particulate buildup from what i understand. taken from <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.greenhouse.gov.au/yourhome/technical/fs52.htm">http://www.greenhouse.gov.au/yourhome/t ... l/fs52.htm</a><!-- m --> "Soil type. Clay soils are more likely to cause environmental harm, while sandy soils are more likely to cause traffic hazards and drainage problems. Exposed subsoils generally cause more problems than exposed topsoils." it seems sand is a little bit less of a serious issue than something like topsoil or cement. still an issue, but i doubt we're gonna be overun by a river turning into a delta due to sand in the winter. edit: erosion control can be taken two ways though IMO, both to prevent foundations washing away and also river pollution to an extent. - .RJ - 01-24-2007 Mike Wrote:hello? Erosion has much larger effects than getting dirt/silt/sand into rivers. Most of the problems created by erosion have nothing to do with being anywhere near a river. I'm going to get a big red "mikey rules" stamp made for me to keep at work. - Kaan - 01-24-2007 look we steal it from the beach to make sure we land locked SOBs can drive in the winter... it washes into our rivers which feed the bays which feed the oceans... and put it back where we got it from in the first place! right? - white_2kgt - 01-24-2007 .RJ Wrote:Mike Wrote:hello? Bingo. Which is why when my dad's logging crews go out to chop down the forest they STILL have to erect those barriers when they get near steep grades. There isn't a river or creek around for MILES....they don't want the top soil washing away b/c if it does it makes it 10x harder to get new trees to grow when they replant. - BLINGMW - 01-24-2007 Kaan Wrote:right? See, Kaan gets it! - Mike - 01-24-2007 ScottyB Wrote:still an issue, but i doubt we're gonna be overun by a river turning into a delta due to sand in the winter. just like the millions of people "oh, by driving this here v8 truck to haul around my 2 kids and nothing else, i have such a small effect on everything." given enough of anything in small amounts, it begins to equal large amounts. sure, salting and sanding roadways isn't a MAJOR environmental concern, but it is one nonetheless. fwiw, salting is far more detrimental than sanding. - Mike - 01-24-2007 .RJ Wrote:Mike Wrote:hello? i wasn't arguing that erosion was not an issue, was i? please quote me if i did, because that would have surely been stupid of me. you guys were arguing that salt and sand has 0 effect on the environment. i cited those barriers as an example as to why it obviously is an issue. i never said the barriers didn't control erosion as well. yay "stupid people rules." - .RJ - 01-24-2007 Mike Wrote:sure, salting and sanding roadways isn't a MAJOR environmental concern, but it is one nonetheless. fwiw, salting is far more detrimental than sanding. And at the same time, you staying at home has zero effect on how much or how often the roads are salted/sanded. So, write your congressman.... - Mike - 01-24-2007 .RJ Wrote:Mike Wrote:sure, salting and sanding roadways isn't a MAJOR environmental concern, but it is one nonetheless. fwiw, salting is far more detrimental than sanding. RTFT, chris told me i could have gone out and salt or sanded my driveway. - .RJ - 01-24-2007 Mike Wrote:i wasn't arguing that erosion was not an issue, was i? No, but you were arguing that construction sites put up barriers to control sand because sand in the water is an issue. Stupid argument ftw! - white_2kgt - 01-24-2007 Mike Wrote:just like the millions of people "oh, by driving this here v8 truck to haul around my 2 kids and nothing else, i have such a small effect on everything." given enough of anything in small amounts, it begins to equal large amounts. I only have 1 kid ATM, not 2, everywhere we go, we take the truck. And FWIW, next time it snows, I'm going to put 200lbs of salt on the drive way instead of just 100lb's. I'm going to call the extra 100lbs 'Salt for Mikey'. - Mike - 01-24-2007 .RJ Wrote:Mike Wrote:i wasn't arguing that erosion was not an issue, was i? :?: you're lost at this point, please back away. - Mike - 01-24-2007 white_2kgt Wrote:Mike Wrote:just like the millions of people "oh, by driving this here v8 truck to haul around my 2 kids and nothing else, i have such a small effect on everything." given enough of anything in small amounts, it begins to equal large amounts. maybe you didn't notice "and nothing else." people who have trucks for valid reasons (you tow a car) can drive them whenever they damn well please for all i care, it doesn't make sense to buy a vehicle and only use it for one purpose. if a truck has a tow hitch on the back of it, that tow hitch has wear, and you drive the truck to the supermarket? good for you. the bitch who i work with who has a giant durango (yes, that's an actual model) to only tote her 3 y/o around in? i fucking hate her guts. as far as the salt thing? hey, go for it. you surely love your kid enough to care about their future. |