.RJ Wrote:Well, to what extent does it matter if you are not making dvd-quality video? Evan Wrote:MPEG2 unfortunately. Lower quality and larger video files. 
I looked up the specs on the site and the resoultion and fps is the same (720x480@30fps) but they only get 25-30 min of recording out of a 1GB CF card. And using MPEG2 for the compression, the quality is most likely lower (more artifacts, blurry) but I cant say for sure without seeing video and comparing. Best case scenario is that its about the same quality, you just need bigger flash cards.
A bonus of the MPEG2 format is you can directly author a dvd without any video conversions.
.RJ Wrote:Thats not bad at all.... hrm.... It's not old and busted so you can't own it.
'76 911S | '14 328xi | '17 GTI | In memoriam: '08 848, '85 944
"Here, at last, is the cure for texting while driving. The millions of deaths which occur every year due to the iPhone’s ability to stream the Kim K/Ray-J video in 4G could all be avoided, every last one of them, if the government issued everyone a Seventies 911 and made sure they always left the house five minutes later than they’d wanted to. It would help if it could be made to rain as well. Full attention on the road. Guaranteed." -Jack Baruth
Evan Wrote:Mike Wrote:they stink... using a regular camera and throwing it in to a multimedia capture device/hard drive thingy is a better option. tapes suck for in-car. no way around it, vibrations screw up the recording head alignment. they are 'good enough' until now, when there hasnt been any real alternative, other than expensive radio based cameras that offloads the recording equipment like you see on Speed channel.
are you agreeing with me? if not, i was referring to a plain-jane camera sending an a/v signal to a solid state recorder, nothing tape related.
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Apoc Wrote:It's not old and busted so you can't own it.
Says the guy with the 10 year old, 30 lb camcorder....
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
Mike Wrote:are you agreeing with me? if not, i was referring to a plain-jane camera sending an a/v signal to a solid state recorder, nothing tape related. ah, I thought you meant plain jane = tape cam
when are you goign to bring some of your expensive gear from your work to the track to mount in my car?
.RJ Wrote:Goodspeed Wrote:^^thanks, video quality looks great. Is it the ZR60 or ZR600?? I'm only finding reviews for the 600
I mentioned in 2 separate posts what model it was.
OK, but...
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/contro...goryid=173
The ZR60 doesn't exist anymore, it was probably renamed to the cooler sounding ZR600 you see there. No need to get snappy :wink:
Are the "Hi8" camcorders the one that don't use tape? Chad, could it of been a Sony Handycam that you used? Thats their entry level camcorder, i've also been looking at those...anyone have any experience w/ them?
Goodspeed Wrote:Are the "Hi8" camcorders the one that don't use tape? Chad, could it of been a Sony Handycam that you used? Thats their entry level camcorder, i've also been looking at those...anyone have any experience w/ them?
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Hi8 is tape.
All (cheap) camcorders use either tape or MiniDVD's.
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Hi8 use larger tapes than miniDV and are lower quality analog. If you're looking for a "budget" format you shouldn't be considering anything less than D8. It's like Hi8, only digital.
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"Here, at last, is the cure for texting while driving. The millions of deaths which occur every year due to the iPhone’s ability to stream the Kim K/Ray-J video in 4G could all be avoided, every last one of them, if the government issued everyone a Seventies 911 and made sure they always left the house five minutes later than they’d wanted to. It would help if it could be made to rain as well. Full attention on the road. Guaranteed." -Jack Baruth
Evan Wrote:when are you goign to bring some of your expensive gear from your work to the track to mount in my car?
we don't have anything worth mounting in your car.
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4 wheels: '01 RAV4 (Formerly '93 Civic CX, '01 S2000, '10 GTI, '09 A4 Avant)
2 wheels: '12 Surly Cross-Check Custom | '14 Trek Madone 2.1 105 | '17 Norco Threshold SL Force 1 | '17 Norco Revolver 9.2 FS | '18 BMC Roadmachine 02 Two | '19 Norco Search XR Steel (Formerly '97 Honda VFR750F, '05 Giant TCR 2, '15 WeThePeople Atlas 24, '10 Scott Scale 29er XT, '11 Cervelo R3 Rival, '12 Ridley X-Fire Red)
No longer onyachin.
.RJ Wrote:Apoc Wrote:It's not old and busted so you can't own it.
Says the guy with the 10 year old, 30 lb camcorder....
It ain't busted... and actually works quite well. It's newer than your bike so you lose.
'76 911S | '14 328xi | '17 GTI | In memoriam: '08 848, '85 944
"Here, at last, is the cure for texting while driving. The millions of deaths which occur every year due to the iPhone’s ability to stream the Kim K/Ray-J video in 4G could all be avoided, every last one of them, if the government issued everyone a Seventies 911 and made sure they always left the house five minutes later than they’d wanted to. It would help if it could be made to rain as well. Full attention on the road. Guaranteed." -Jack Baruth
Goodspeed Wrote:The ZR60 doesn't exist anymore
You'll also notice I said I bought its replacement on Craigslist.....
Apoc Wrote:It's newer than your bike so you lose.
Everything is newer than my bike.
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
Goodspeed Wrote:Are the "Hi8" camcorders the one that don't use tape? Chad, could it of been a Sony Handycam that you used? Thats their entry level camcorder, i've also been looking at those...anyone have any experience w/ them?
This is the Sony I've been using this year,
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Hi8 is a tape, just an old analog tape, basically a small version of VHS.
Mike Wrote:Evan Wrote:when are you goign to bring some of your expensive gear from your work to the track to mount in my car?
we don't have anything worth mounting in your car. anything better than a webcam would be worth mounting in my car 
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4 wheels: '01 RAV4 (Formerly '93 Civic CX, '01 S2000, '10 GTI, '09 A4 Avant)
2 wheels: '12 Surly Cross-Check Custom | '14 Trek Madone 2.1 105 | '17 Norco Threshold SL Force 1 | '17 Norco Revolver 9.2 FS | '18 BMC Roadmachine 02 Two | '19 Norco Search XR Steel (Formerly '97 Honda VFR750F, '05 Giant TCR 2, '15 WeThePeople Atlas 24, '10 Scott Scale 29er XT, '11 Cervelo R3 Rival, '12 Ridley X-Fire Red)
No longer onyachin.
agreed.
'76 911S | '14 328xi | '17 GTI | In memoriam: '08 848, '85 944
"Here, at last, is the cure for texting while driving. The millions of deaths which occur every year due to the iPhone’s ability to stream the Kim K/Ray-J video in 4G could all be avoided, every last one of them, if the government issued everyone a Seventies 911 and made sure they always left the house five minutes later than they’d wanted to. It would help if it could be made to rain as well. Full attention on the road. Guaranteed." -Jack Baruth
.RJ Wrote:You'll also notice I said I bought its replacement on Craigslist.....
.RJ Wrote:I've been happy with my Canon ZR60. You can get a ZR60/80/90 on ebay or craigslist pretty cheap. I broke mine, picked up another of the same on craigslist for $200, used once.
 lol just messin w/ you....well I just got back from shopping around a little and played with both the Canon XR series and the Sony Handycam series and they seem nearly identical, features, pricewise etc. The Canons have image stabilization, so i'll probably go w/ one of those because thats definately a useful feature for what i'll be using it for
Not quite a year later - what cameras do you guys have now, and do you like them? I'd like to get something before heading to Oz.
My two feet.
JohnC Wrote:Not quite a year later - what cameras do you guys have now, and do you like them? I'd like to get something before heading to Oz.
I bought a ZR70 for track abuse for a 100 bucks off ebay. Then my car broke.
Two feet.
You should take the stickers off... they're only good for an additional 50 lines of resolution but their weight makes them a burden.
'76 911S | '14 328xi | '17 GTI | In memoriam: '08 848, '85 944
"Here, at last, is the cure for texting while driving. The millions of deaths which occur every year due to the iPhone’s ability to stream the Kim K/Ray-J video in 4G could all be avoided, every last one of them, if the government issued everyone a Seventies 911 and made sure they always left the house five minutes later than they’d wanted to. It would help if it could be made to rain as well. Full attention on the road. Guaranteed." -Jack Baruth
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