if you were me

[Maengelito]

in a *completely hypothetical situation* would you trade an M3 with over 200k miles on it for my christina (1994 acura integra LS 150k miles)?

dont ask me which year or body style or condition (but with 200k miles, i assume its an e30, perhaps 1988-1990?)

i think in most cases, people would say "yes, trade!" but christina is my first car, so there's a sentimental value attached to her.

lets hear your thoughts...

[Dave]

in terms of worth, then yes, definitely. But sentimental value and ease of use play an enormous role in the choice of selling a car, especially the first car. I was lucky enough to not really have any MAJOR sentimental attachment to my first, but you've been through a lot with yours.
That said, I would do it. You're going to get a pretty well made car, with decent power and only 50k more miles than your current car. Not to mention, RWD ownz.
I don't know how the M3 would compare to the Teg in terms of reliability and such, but I doubt it is quite up to par with the Honda. However, I got my first ride in an M3 last weekend at CMP and I was absolutely thrilled. Granted it was with Chris in his new E36, but it absolutely rocked my world (read: if this one is an E36, I will bitch-slap you if you don't do it).
Maybe it's time you moved on from crappy old FWD and learn where the real fun is. I guarantee you, it will probably take a good bit more finesse than the Teg, but you will enjoy it sooooo much more. Sounds like an awesome deal, a major upgrade, and a good financial move if it is the real deal and the car is sound.

DO IT BEEEYATCH. I want to see you roll up the show flashin the Ms from an M3 :twisted:

[Chris]

guess this depends on your future racing/track plans. If you want to build a race car, keep the teg and do a swap later down the road. Seems like both cars would need a rebuild or swap sooner or later... maybe?? the M3 would also be more costly in the long run (I believe, I'm sure someone will say different).

[BLINGMW]

dear lord no. Not unless you budget for a major engine rebuild, not to mention all bushings and all kinds of other random crap. Assuming this hasn't already been done. The E30M3 is a fun car, but most definatly a $$$ pit. If it's going to be your track car, it'll need a LOT of work, and a lot more $$ to keep it on the track than Christina. A regular E30 325is would be a better choice IMHO unless you just have some extra $$ to burn.

[Hunter]

Although I love the bimmers, I agree with chan... the M3 with be rediculously expensive to track, you think you know, but you have no idea. And i doubt you'll find one with 200k anywhere near decent condition. Remember, those cars are awesome driving cars, so people rag the shit out of them.

[Mike]

Nope, irregardless of what you want to do on track.

[Dave]

wow, I guess I'm the ill-educated man in the club when it comes to BMWs, surprise surprise. I still think it'd be a hell of a lot of fun, but might want to find a way to keep Christina around too, if thats possible.

[mrbaggio]

irregardless

Is that a real word.

In any event I would keep the current car and beat it til its dead. No one unloads a car unless they have something to hide.

[Mike]

irregardless

Is that a real word.

"What? What??"

Main Entry: ir┬Àre┬Àgard┬Àless
Pronunciation: "ir-i-'gärd-l&s
Function: adverb
Etymology: probably blend of irrespective and regardless
nonstandard : REGARDLESS
usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that "there is no such word." There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose.

[.RJ]

Maeng, I dont think you run run away fast enough........

Unless its an E36

[.RJ]

Or maybe you should just trade your integra for all the food at the McD's drive through.

Although if it was an E30, you could probably sell that for alot more than your integra.... and buy a fag car

[Maengelito]

irregardless

Is that a real word.

In any event I would keep the current car and beat it til its dead. No one unloads a car unless they have something to hide.

it is a word which happens to mean the same exact thing as regardless, so i have decided to coin aregardless and unregardless.

[Evan]

Considering the M3 doesnt have that many more miles on it than your integra, yes I would definately trade.

[Feersty]

Is the E30 M3 really fast? read: quarter mile, 0-60?

[.RJ]

Is the E30 M3 really fast? read: quarter mile, 0-60?

No.

This was a car built 15+ years ago, using 20+ year old technology. At the time it was hot shit, but things have come a very long way since then - but as a long-term proposition they are expensive to own... a motor tear down is $2500 in parts alone.

Their strong point is handling, which they do very well - I've had the opportunity to ride in a few on track, i'm pretty impressed with them in that regard.

With a bit of work you can go faster in a E30 325is, but I think the M has a certain feel that cant be replaced by faster lap times. But I like E30's. And E34's

[.RJ]

E30 M3 bling!

[Mike]

[Ryan T]

^^HAHAHA

Personally, unless I had deep pockets, I'd keep the teg.

[CaptainHenreh]

Unless it's a rusted out ghost of an M, I say buy it.

Sure, a rebuild is going to cost you money. Sure, it doesn't travel at the speed of light.

But goddamnit, It's an M. The heritage, the performance, the feel, none of that can even begin to be replicated by a Japanese car. I say look at it, drive it, go over it with a fine tooth comb, and then if it's not a giant hunk of shit, get it.

Shit, if you DON'T get it, at least get the cash price for it, and let us all know what it is....

[BLINGMW]

oh, it's definatly a cool car, no doubt. And good point, "none of that can even begin to be replicated by a Japanese car", BUT, it can be replicated, sans fender flares, by another E30. A 325i or is with a few things removed is just as light, has more power, is cheaper to buy and maintain, parts are much easier to find, and there's nothing magical about the M suspension, it's the same as any E30 with offset front bushings that are easy to replace. Has slightly better brakes, but with the right pads on a 325, the brakes are just fine. Yes, out of the box, 15 years ago, an E30M3 was certianly faster in every way than any other E30. But that's just not relevant today. ALL of them need work, all of them need parts, and the E30M3 is just as tired, if not more so (because it's probably been driven harder, and the motor isn't as reliable to start with anyway) than a 325 or 318. The magic is gone. :|

With, let's say, 7 grand, you could choose between keeping an E30M3 in good running shape and trackable, or you could have a full on E30 (non M) racecar. Cage, seats, brakes, safety equipment, fresh engine, exhaust, all maintenance, bushings, bearings, shocks and springs (or coilovers). See you in hell E30M3. :wink: