okay, so i discovered that one of my kyb agx shocks is blown to smithereens, and I've already contacted them. They say they can't handle individual orders and won't revalve them. DIdn't even quote me a price. SO, should I...
1) Pick up one more, knowing that another will probably fail soon
2) Ditch them all and pick up some coilovers (trying not to spend a whole lot of dough on this car)
3) Sell the car (hah, yeah right)
I like adjustability and it is an easy install, so what should I do???
Koni + ground control sleeves + ground control upper hats (if you need more susp travel)
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
Is there nowhere else that can revalve it? I think that there are folks out there who revalve Konis (and aren't affliated with Koni directly - or maybe I'm wrong). RJ should know.
My two feet.
the agx are a pretty good shock... hrm... budget tightish? get a replacement.
I Am Mike
4 wheels: '01 RAV4 (Formerly '93 Civic CX, '01 S2000, '10 GTI, '09 A4 Avant)
2 wheels: '12 Surly Cross-Check Custom | '14 Trek Madone 2.1 105 | '17 Norco Threshold SL Force 1 | '17 Norco Revolver 9.2 FS | '18 BMC Roadmachine 02 Two | '19 Norco Search XR Steel (Formerly '97 Honda VFR750F, '05 Giant TCR 2, '15 WeThePeople Atlas 24, '10 Scott Scale 29er XT, '11 Cervelo R3 Rival, '12 Ridley X-Fire Red)
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JohnC Wrote:I think that there are folks out there who revalve Konis (and aren't affliated with Koni directly - or maybe I'm wrong). RJ should know.
ProParts West and Truechoice both do... but i wouldnt send them anywhere but koni 
Then again, Dave has KYB shocks, so that doesnt do him a damn bit of good.
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
.RJ Wrote:Then again, Dave has KYB shocks, so that doesnt do him a damn bit of good.
The point being that there are places out there that do it.
My two feet.
KYB != Koni
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
.RJ Wrote:KYB != Koni
I say find someplace to get them revalved. Call some race shops, just ask around. Just calling KYB doesn't do any good.
I just did a google search for "shock revalving" and got at least 5 places that did it in the first page of results. And then, if they can't be revalved, I say replace the front pair and be done. Coilovers=waste of money.
1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass 442
CaptainHenreh Wrote:Coilovers=waste of money.
did you see the 007 e46 m3 from vir in february?!?!? all he had done was coilovers and r-compound tires and rolled damn near everyone besides a gt3 that was running with him.
I believe Advance Autoparts covers the AGX under warranty for a year. Just buy a set from them, hang on to the blown shock and in six months, bring it back to them, and tell them it blew. They'll cover it under warranty cause they don't know what they're doing, and you've got yourself a spare pair.
CaptainHenreh Wrote:I say find someplace to get them revalved.
Its not that simple. If KYB does not sell the parts, or the shock is built in such a way that revalving is not possible without trashing it on dissasembly, then you're jsut shit out of luck. And generally, rebuilding is no less expensive than just buying another one
Quote: Coilovers=waste of money.
Adjustable ride height, and swapping spring rates for $60 on either end to tune the car (used 2.5" ID 'race' springs are easy to find) is really a waste of money :roll:
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
.RJ Wrote:CaptainHenreh Wrote:I say find someplace to get them revalved.
Its not that simple. If KYB does not sell the parts, or the shock is built in such a way that revalving is not possible without trashing it on dissasembly, then you're jsut shit out of luck. And generally, rebuilding is no less expensive than just buying another one.
especially an agx... i don't think rebuilding (if possible) would be much less than the cost of a new $100 shock.
I Am Mike
4 wheels: '01 RAV4 (Formerly '93 Civic CX, '01 S2000, '10 GTI, '09 A4 Avant)
2 wheels: '12 Surly Cross-Check Custom | '14 Trek Madone 2.1 105 | '17 Norco Threshold SL Force 1 | '17 Norco Revolver 9.2 FS | '18 BMC Roadmachine 02 Two | '19 Norco Search XR Steel (Formerly '97 Honda VFR750F, '05 Giant TCR 2, '15 WeThePeople Atlas 24, '10 Scott Scale 29er XT, '11 Cervelo R3 Rival, '12 Ridley X-Fire Red)
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jackstands Wrote:I believe Advance Autoparts covers the AGX under warranty for a year. Just buy a set from them, hang on to the blown shock and in six months, bring it back to them, and tell them it blew. They'll cover it under warranty cause they don't know what they're doing, and you've got yourself a spare pair. an excellent idea 8) However, I just looked it up on the Advance website and they don't list it for the 240. Got any insight on this?
Dave Wrote:jackstands Wrote:I believe Advance Autoparts covers the AGX under warranty for a year. Just buy a set from them, hang on to the blown shock and in six months, bring it back to them, and tell them it blew. They'll cover it under warranty cause they don't know what they're doing, and you've got yourself a spare pair. an excellent idea 8) However, I just looked it up on the Advance website and they don't list it for the 240. Got any insight on this?
Buy my prelude :roll:
.RJ Wrote:If KYB does not sell the parts, or the shock is built in such a way that revalving is not possible without trashing it on dissasembly, then you're jsut shit out of luck. And generally, rebuilding is no less expensive than just buying another one
I am quite sure that AGX's are not only rebuildable, but can be rebuilt with more agressive valves.
.RJ Wrote:Adjustable ride height, and swapping spring rates for $60 on either end to tune the car (used 2.5" ID 'race' springs are easy to find) is really a waste of money.
Well, A: Who needs adjustable ride height, and B: where can you find coilovers for 60 dollars a side?
1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass 442
CaptainHenreh Wrote:I am quite sure that AGX's are not only rebuildable, but can be rebuilt with more agressive valves.
how do you know this? a lot of shocks can't be rebuilt.
CaptainHenreh Wrote:Well, A: Who needs adjustable ride height, and B: where can you find coilovers for 60 dollars a side?
a: adjustable ride height is useful not only for lowering the car, but corner weighting as well.
b: he was referring to springs. you can get a pair of used springs for $60... making it cheap to set up your car exactly how you want it once you have a coilover setup.
I Am Mike
4 wheels: '01 RAV4 (Formerly '93 Civic CX, '01 S2000, '10 GTI, '09 A4 Avant)
2 wheels: '12 Surly Cross-Check Custom | '14 Trek Madone 2.1 105 | '17 Norco Threshold SL Force 1 | '17 Norco Revolver 9.2 FS | '18 BMC Roadmachine 02 Two | '19 Norco Search XR Steel (Formerly '97 Honda VFR750F, '05 Giant TCR 2, '15 WeThePeople Atlas 24, '10 Scott Scale 29er XT, '11 Cervelo R3 Rival, '12 Ridley X-Fire Red)
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Mike Wrote:how do you know this? a lot of shocks can't be rebuilt.
Because dozens of people in the 240 community have done it. And corner weighting be damned, Dave doesn't have 800-1000 dollars to spend on a coilover setup. All I'm saying is that compared to other suspension setups, and Dave's needs, a coilover system is a waste of money, and indeed is a waste of money for most street applications.
1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass 442
.RJ Wrote:Adjustable ride height, and swapping spring rates for $60 on either end to tune the car (used 2.5" ID 'race' springs are easy to find) is really a waste of money :roll: Like always, your application, your needs and your goals dictate what your best choice is.
Otherwise, you would have bought coilovers instead of those eibach sprangs and used shocks for your bmwpile, right?
the important thing, IMO, is that the car drives right. I'm not interested in putting a shit-ton of money into this car, since I truly doubt that I will own this car longer than 2 years. So, it looks like it will be me attempting to find a shock and get this puppy ready for CMP.
CaptainHenreh Wrote:Mike Wrote:how do you know this? a lot of shocks can't be rebuilt.
Because dozens of people in the 240 community have done it.
then where did they get it done!? isn't that a major point of this thread?
CaptainHenreh Wrote:And corner weighting be damned, Dave doesn't have 800-1000 dollars to spend on a coilover setup.
I know this, you'll see above that I recommended just replacing the single shock. I was merely pointing out the value of a coilover setup.
CaptainHenreh Wrote:All I'm saying is that compared to other suspension setups, and Dave's needs, a coilover system is a waste of money, and indeed is a waste of money for most street applications.
:agreed:
I Am Mike
4 wheels: '01 RAV4 (Formerly '93 Civic CX, '01 S2000, '10 GTI, '09 A4 Avant)
2 wheels: '12 Surly Cross-Check Custom | '14 Trek Madone 2.1 105 | '17 Norco Threshold SL Force 1 | '17 Norco Revolver 9.2 FS | '18 BMC Roadmachine 02 Two | '19 Norco Search XR Steel (Formerly '97 Honda VFR750F, '05 Giant TCR 2, '15 WeThePeople Atlas 24, '10 Scott Scale 29er XT, '11 Cervelo R3 Rival, '12 Ridley X-Fire Red)
No longer onyachin.
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