Tuesday

**G.Irish** · 02-22-2005, 07:30 PM

Maengelito Wrote:they give an award to anyone these days looks like... you still cant beat me in street fighter, y0

And you can't beat me in Tekken.

Maengelito · 02-22-2005, 07:32 PM

i never claimed to be good at tekken

.RJ · 02-22-2005, 07:38 PM

"These slant eyes allow me to see in 4-D!" - brian maeng

ScottyB · 02-22-2005, 07:42 PM

Maengelito Wrote:they give an award to anyone these days looks like... you still cant beat me in street fighter, y0

sounds like a challenge punk. i'll shoryuken all over your candy ass!

Maengelito · 02-22-2005, 07:47 PM

ScottyB Wrote:
Maengelito Wrote:they give an award to anyone these days looks like... you still cant beat me in street fighter, y0

sounds like a challenge punk. i'll shoryuken all over your candy ass!

oh my... bring your weak shit and go home crying when i 'perfect!' your ass.

**Mike** · 02-23-2005, 10:31 AM

my review:

After a long, long wait, it's finally here. Yesterday was an exiciting day in the US for car and game fanatics and for good reason, it was the release of the new version of the most entertaining driving simulator ever. Unfortunately it did not come as expected, and Sony was forced to scrap the much anticipated online mode, which would have opened new doors for console racers around the world. Instead, we get a new game with slightly updated graphics, physics, some more courses, some different/more cars, a slightly different interface, and a lot more of the same old. I might as well just come out and say it, I'm not impressed. The AI is still absolutely abysmal and I have been able to win pretty much every race I've entered by taking the cheapest eligible vehicle, strapping on a turbo kit (or a bigger one if it already has one), exhaust, a computer chip, and some weight reduction. Not exactly a challenge if you ask me. If I lose a race? I find the cheapest way to add a few more ponies to my car and win with ease the next time around. The ability to transfer 100k credits and the two basic licenses if your memory card has a GT3 saved game on it is a nice feature, but I appreciate a "challenge" and skipped the credit part. Licenses on the other hand, are a pain in the ass so I went ahead and transferred them. I started the game with my own car, an EG (92-95) Civic, did some weight reduction, exhaust and a chip, and was able to win all the applicable beginnger races with that alone, earning a good number of credit in the process. I then went for the Civic championship and was not so lucky, I was forced to slap a turbo on the pile in order to vanquish my foes. Yay! A challenge! [/sarcasm] One thing I will give Polyphony/Sont credit for is their modeling of a light, high-powered, front-wheel-drive vehicle; they really hit it dead on resulting in a task that isn't so much racing as it is a constant struggle for traction. I won the Civic races, got some pretty sweet EF Mugen Racecar and then as faced with my next challenge, what to do next!? I went the Miata route, bought the cheapest, slapped a turbo on it, did some weight reduction, and easily took care of the Miata series race, which resulted in winning some ugly SUV that I can't sell for money. I then bought an FD (last generation RX7), did the usualy upgrades, and won the FR "Challenge." What's nice about the RWD cars I've used to this point, on-throttle oversteer simply hasn't existed. Fly in to a corner, trailbrake, reach your target speed, slam the gas... No disruption in traction. Sigh... Maybe they'll get it all right when they release GT5 in 2008. 5% through the game in an hour or two and it was time for bed, goodnight cruel world.

Dragon · 02-23-2005, 10:42 AM

Well personally I like it. I didn't do any transferring at all from GT3, finished B, A, Int'l B, Int'l A, and got partiallyl into Super. I used the Pontiac Sunfire GXP Concept '02 to compete in the Sunday Cup with only some minor modifications so as to not blow the competition away.

**Mike** · 02-23-2005, 10:45 AM

see? that's the thing... you have to limit yourself to make it a challenge, it shoudln't be that way. to the defese on the game's creators though, the game wouldn't sell well if dolts couldn't beat the first races with ease.

Dragon · 02-23-2005, 10:55 AM

Mike Wrote:the game wouldn't sell well if dolts couldn't beat the first races with ease.

I'll agree with you there, that's probably the reason for the ability to transfer credits and licenses from GT3.

As for having to limit yourself to make it a challenge, I don't really think of it that way. When you level the playing field it makes it a challenge. It's no fun to just get a car do every modification possible to it, and blow away the competition. For me the fun is taking the car making it even with the other cars in the pack, and then trying to win. You gotta have that ability though to blow away the AI for those people who don't care about the challenge and just want the win.

**Mike** · 02-23-2005, 11:00 AM

matt reminded me of a few things... 1) there is no more qualifying, you always start last. 2) there is a new b-spec mode that lets you "race" as a team manager or something... telling a dolt of a driver how fast he should drive, when he should pit, when he should pass.... absolutely retarded, i can't believe they wasted development time on it.

Dragon · 02-23-2005, 11:05 AM

Yeah I didn't mess with that B-Spec mode, seems quite stupid to me.

BLINGMW · 02-23-2005, 11:37 AM

what about the tracks? Nerburgring?! Confused

hock:

oh yeah, and the B-spec thing, I can only assume that sucks. I guess they paid off the game mags to say they thought it was cool :roll:

hey, can you at least see what the AI guys will be driving before you enter the race like you could in 2, so you can make a good guess at what to show up with? Or do you have to enter and start to figure it out like in 3?

I'll also be interested to see if you can change your oil during the the multi race championships or if you have to watch performance fall with every race. THAT was good planning on their part. :?

**Mike** · 02-23-2005, 11:54 AM

i think you have to actually enter the race to see exactly what you'll be up against.

oh yeah, changing your oil is painstankingly slow... you have to watch an f'ing 30s animation until it is "done."

Dragon · 02-23-2005, 11:58 AM

BLINGMW Wrote:what about the tracks? Nerburgring?! hock:

I have to go find my SOCOM II buddy and smack the shit out of him. I got an IM from him this morning.

HIM (9:54 AM 2/23/2005): what was that 10 minute lap course? i was drooling the whole time i looked around...to bad I had to stare at the back of a skyline the whole time.
ME (9:59 AM 2/23/2005): You don't know about THE RING???

The next to last test for Int'l A license is a full lap on the Nerburgring.

BLINGMW · 02-23-2005, 12:13 PM

Mike Wrote:i think you have to actually enter the race to see exactly what you'll be up against.

oh yeah, changing your oil is painstankingly slow... you have to watch an f'ing 30s animation until it is "done."

ok, good to see they're making improvements. :evil:

Dragon Wrote:The next to last test for Int'l A license is a full lap on the Nerburgring.

I needed to hear that. *sigh* I think that's all I'm paying for, honestly.

Dragon · 02-23-2005, 04:25 PM

Hrm, might this be a way to actually play GT4 online????
http://www.teamxlink.co.uk/

Feersty · 02-23-2005, 06:51 PM

Nice writeup Mike, they are appealing to the general public with this game, not racers or even car enthusiasts.

**G.Irish** · 02-23-2005, 07:09 PM

Feersty Wrote:Nice writeup Mike, they are appealing to the general public with this game, not racers or even car enthusiasts.

You've gotta understand, even among car enthusiasts we are the lunatic fringe. They aren't making the game for us. Most people are going to be very pleased with this game. Most of us will be anywhere from satisfied to somewhat disappointed but won't hate this game. Then there are some of us who are unimpressed and may not buy the game at all...

Dragon · 02-23-2005, 09:22 PM

Just tested the software from that link, and yes I was playing online!

**G.Irish** · 02-23-2005, 09:23 PM

Dragon Wrote:Just tested the software from that link, and yes I was playing online!

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