G.Irish Wrote:If you really want to make things safer in terms of collisions you would need to enact a momentum limit. Lighter vehicles could go faster, while heavier vehicles would need to go slower. That would be the only way to be fair.
That is absolutely brilliant. I'd vote for that law.
With the behemoths on the road these days, motorcycles could go like infinity.
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"Here, at last, is the cure for texting while driving. The millions of deaths which occur every year due to the iPhone’s ability to stream the Kim K/Ray-J video in 4G could all be avoided, every last one of them, if the government issued everyone a Seventies 911 and made sure they always left the house five minutes later than they’d wanted to. It would help if it could be made to rain as well. Full attention on the road. Guaranteed." -Jack Baruth
So, because idiots can't control themselves behind the wheel, everybody should suffer? How about fixing the problem and not the symptom? Regulation for regulation's sake is silly.
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Apoc Wrote:G.Irish Wrote:If you really want to make things safer in terms of collisions you would need to enact a momentum limit. Lighter vehicles could go faster, while heavier vehicles would need to go slower. That would be the only way to be fair.
That is absolutely brilliant. I'd vote for that law.
With the behemoths on the road these days, motorcycles could go like infinity.
i think the new liter bikes... $10-13k with 200hp and 400lbs wet means all is right with the world.
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But even then, the momentum law wouldn't comepnsate for "idiot causes domino effect" effect. How about we just make it harder for idiots to get, renew, and keep their licenses?
When it comes to Ryan Jenkins, the story ends with me putting him in the wall.
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-Ginger
Apoc Wrote:That is absolutely brilliant. I'd vote for that law.
You'd be f'ed with your 4000 lb eurotrash sled 
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
asteele2 Wrote:How about we just make it harder for idiots to get, renew, and keep their licenses?
i've been preaching that for quite some time now
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Maengelito Wrote:i've been preaching that for quite some time now
Your people dont stand a chance if that happened!
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
It's funny how you use terms "bollocks", and "rubbish" in every day conversation, but then break out Eurotrash.
When it comes to Ryan Jenkins, the story ends with me putting him in the wall.
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-Ginger
.RJ Wrote:Maengelito Wrote:i've been preaching that for quite some time now
Your people dont stand a chance if that happened!
thats fine. many of them dont deserve to have licenses. stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason. because they're true. my mom is one of the worst drivers i've ever seen.
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i might lose my license if those laws went into effect as well!
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Apoc Wrote:motorcycles could go like infinity.
they already can!
I Am Mike
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Mike Wrote:they already can!
Yeah, just dont stop :lol:
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
.RJ Wrote:Mike Wrote:they already can!
Yeah, just dont stop :lol:
 that going slow stuff.... i'll figure it out someday.
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G.Irish Wrote:You'd have to talk about the exact externalities imposed by a given vehicle to be fair. An SUV or truck uses a lot more gas, emits more CO2, puts more wear on the road, takes up more space causing more traffic, and endangers other drivers more than the average sports car. On paper it seems like an ultra fast car is a public menace but in reality it is hardly a factor.
Agreed but in large numbers, resources can't/won't meet demand for everyone to have a large SUV so resource price goes up driving up purchase prices along with cost of maintenance which reduce demand.
Small luxury niche products don't follow that curve.
Scotty-Idiots make money too. They can also have kids. Also rich, smart people are also able to produce idiot children so there.
My thought with super high HP cars is that the HPnumbers can't be used safely/legally so why produce something like that? So if it can't be used legally/safely, why is it produced?
Warning:I don't apply this logic to alcohol, cigarettes or the like.
I'm only saying that 300 or 550HP's is all the same to 99% of the populace, but the costs to society curve is much steeper once 300ish HP's is reached.
Two feet.
Andy Wrote:My thought with super high HP cars is that the HPnumbers can't be used safely/legally so why produce something like that? So if it can't be used legally/safely, why is it produced?
Warning:I don't apply this logic to alcohol, cigarettes or the like.
Why not?
Is it not the buyers responsibility to be, you know, responsible with what he has? And if he isn't, is he not punished?
For the record, Germany "chastised" BMW when they made the 2002Tii, said it was "irresponsible" of the manufacturer to sell it, because it was so fast.
We can all see what good it did.
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sweet jeebus! i hadn't heard the new final numbers...but that car is pure sex. With all these ridiculous choices on the horizon, I don't know why anyone wouldn't buy domestic. There's good shit in every price range
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I don't understand why you think this is your perogotive to regulate. Your problem isn't the cars, it's the drivers. If I want a 500hp car, I don't see any legitimate reason that I can't have one... if you want to go down the road of questioning my rationale you're travelling down a slippery slope. It's not the government's business what I do with my things if it doesn't break any laws.
Most motorcycles produced will dwarf most cars perforamance numbers... should I not be allowed to own one? I've never gotten a ticket for misbehavior. That, and my use of my 45+mpg toys is more friendly on the environment than my 20mpg truck.
When it comes to Ryan Jenkins, the story ends with me putting him in the wall.
2009 Speed Triple | 2006 DR-Z400SM | 1999 CBR600F4 | 1998 Jeep Cherokee
-Ginger
HAULN-SS Wrote:sweet jeebus! i hadn't heard the new final numbers...but that car is pure sex. With all these ridiculous choices on the horizon, I don't know why anyone wouldn't buy domestic. There's good shit in every price range
Auto only. 
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HAULN-SS Wrote:With all these ridiculous choices on the horizon, I don't know why anyone wouldn't buy domestic.
Because some of us don't like them.
When it comes to Ryan Jenkins, the story ends with me putting him in the wall.
2009 Speed Triple | 2006 DR-Z400SM | 1999 CBR600F4 | 1998 Jeep Cherokee
-Ginger
CaptainHenreh Wrote:HAULN-SS Wrote:sweet jeebus! i hadn't heard the new final numbers...but that car is pure sex. With all these ridiculous choices on the horizon, I don't know why anyone wouldn't buy domestic. There's good shit in every price range
Auto only.
no wai! It says int he article that you can get the tremec with it
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