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GS500. Wrenched on it for the first time today, and I gotta say, I am unimpressed. I'm trying to do some of the things that are supposed to be done every 4000 miles. I guess I incorrectly assumed that a bike should be easier to work on, especially one as simple as mine, and while some things are, a lot of what should be simple is not!

Let's see, I'll start with the good. Bleeding the brakes. Freakin sweet. I could pump and activate the bleeder with one hand! Neato. And the lines are short, so it goes quickly. :thumbup:

Also cleaned air filter and topped off battery. That went well too.

Ok, I'm supposed to check the valve clearances. This should be pretty easy, heck, I could do an e30 on a lunch break.
1) Remove the gas tank. Most everything starts with this step. Uh, ok, thanks for leaving me plenty of line so I can actually get to the connections while holding the gas tank partially up with one hand. NOT. And you could have put the nipple for the bleeder hose ANYWHERE, but hey, lets put it right in front of the tiny cutoff valve I need to use a massively long screwdriver on, I can barely see it.
Alright, it's off.
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Let's take off this valve cover. It's held on by bolts I need an allen wrench for. Odd choice. Ok, it's loose. Take it off. Wow, the frame is JUST in the way from any angle. And there's like 5 cables in the way over top of it. I can't believe I can't get it OUT of the bike. 20 minutes later, feeling like I've probably damaged the cables, I have it out.
Let's check those clearances, I have this nice metric feeler set. Oh. 0.05mm? Holy crap, mine doesn't go that low. That's like, a piece of paper. That was a waste of time. At least I managed to re-gap the plugs when I pulled them so I could rotate the engine. Snake the valve cover back in there eventually, reseal, tighten. Thank god I didn't have the ability to actually check the clearance though, here's the 1 hour video about how to replace the shims with other shims if they are wrong.

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You have GOT to be kidding me. Guess I won't be doing that. Ever.

Anyway, the other frustration. Let's crank up the rear spring preload a few clicks, it's the only adjustment the suspension has, and it's sitting a bit too low with me on it. Tool is in the factory toolkit under the seat, this should be easy!
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Nope. Nevermind. I guess the "4" setting will work for me. I have tried every angle, I cannot get that freakin wrench ON the adjuster ANYWHERE. There is so much crap blocking that area, it will NOT fit in there without removing some more stuff, either the rear wheel or the linkage for the shock/spring. Did they even try this tool? Holy balls.

Let's see. Now that I've "done" all that, let's look at removing this centerstand for my upcoming track event. Besides, it's impossible to use it on a garage floor, and I should probably get some of those wheel jack/lift things anyway. Oh? I have to take off the exhaust? Cool. No thanks. Maybe next weeekend. :evil:

WHO THE HELL DESIGNED THIS THING. I only got a few of the things done on this laundry list that's supposed to be completed every 4000 miles. WTF.

Please tell me there are some bikes that are not like this. Or, call me a bitch for whining about this stuff. Tongue
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#2
someone in like '85 designed it. what do you expect? it's not a honda! Wink
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there are tools you can pick up... here or there... either from a motorcycle specific tool company like motion pro or from your local sears/snap on guy that will make working on a bike MUCH easier.

from motion pro i'd probably pick up these tools if i were you :
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something off this page, whatever you need to remove the tires from the bike:
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a bike of your age, this might come in handy from time to time:
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you can order snap on parts from the interweb just as easy as easy as finding the local snap on dealer... they sell a folding T handle that works with 3/8 drive sockets... its worth the $50 for the tool... and i'd be ready to buy swivel everything as its needed on your bike... if you say to yourself "man i could get this if i had a swivel socket" just go buy it... my bike is 10 times easier to work on since i bought a 12mm and 14mm swivel...

i think i could go on and on about tools that can make your time working on a motorcycle much easier. but the motion pro ball allen T handles and then buying the snap on folding T handle that turns all your 3/8 sockets into a T handle is what i think you should start with.

and get used to allen bolts... some people convert their whole bike to nothing but allen bolts!
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Kaan Wrote:and get used to allen bolts... some people convert their whole bike to nothing but allen bolts!

You mean, turn their bike into nothing but 1/4 turn fasteners.... I know I want to. Fuck fairings.
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
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.RJ Wrote:
Kaan Wrote:and get used to allen bolts... some people convert their whole bike to nothing but allen bolts!

You mean, turn their bike into nothing but 1/4 turn fasteners.... I know I want to. Fuck fairings.

their fairings are all 1/4 turn fasteners, but EVERY single bolt on the bike turned into an allen bolt... so they only have to carry around 3 tools Wink
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Thanks for the ideas Kaan, I'm going to try changing the fork oil next and I'm really not looking forward to it. But before trying another valve adjustment or something like that, I might pick those swivel dealies up.

Also, I think if I remove the splash gaurd in the rear, I might be able to get to that adjuster. We'll see.

Do any of you guys have a motorcycle lift? I had no idea they could be so cheap

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Cheaper than race stands, seems like it'd be a lot more useful too.
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#7
those lifts dont really work for "sport" bikes... so make sure your bike has exposed frame that can sit on that lift before you buy it. its generally a cruiser "tool." you can find cheap front and rear stands that will get the job done... you just need to look around.
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#8
it does, but the exhaust hangs below it. I think it could work, I'd just need a ft long 2x4 on each side to contact the frame instead of the exhaust. If I could get that to work, wouldn't it allow me to do a lot more work than just a front and rear stand would?
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BLINGMW Wrote:it does, but the exhaust hangs below it. I think it could work, I'd just need a ft long 2x4 on each side to contact the frame instead of the exhaust. If I could get that to work, wouldn't it allow me to do a lot more work than just a front and rear stand would?

Yep - and I've done it Smile Have some tie downs handy, but they usually come with the jack.
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#10
BLINGMW Wrote:wouldn't it allow me to do a lot more work than just a front and rear stand would?

The only extra work you'll be able to do with the jack is remove suspension bits - the stands are easier to use for most things, and you can improvise instead of using a jack. If your footpegs dont fold up you can use a jackstand under each peg, if they do fold then use a piece of round stock through the swingarm pivot and put your jackstands there.
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
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There is something to be said for having the motorcycle higher off the ground just for the sake of making work easier. especially easier on your joints and back. I was able to get my R60/5 up to a workable height for some pretty big jobs using some imaginative tie-downs and putting the centerstand on 2x4s on the jack. Yes, you can do most work on front/rear stands, but having the bike up off the ground makes life SO much better.
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