So I've had the I/O Port mount for close to a year now and have yet to record any video out of pure laziness. I tried hooking up my dig camcorder that uses Mini-8's but the thing is a little too big and blocks my already small rearview. The picture quality wasn't all that great either. So the questions is, what are some good camcorders out there that are proven to be trackable. I'd like it to be small and use digital memory i.e. no moving parts.
*Edit* Justifying purchase to wife will require it to serve double duty for her use as well so it can't be *too* track specific.
Two feet.
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Then get one of their lipstick cams to go w/ it. I'm done carrying around any moving parts to a camera in the car. Mine's broke already.
I don't know much about them, but you could look into a DVD camcorder. They burn video direct to DVD, and as a result they aren't well suited to those who like to edit video. But if you just want to pop in the DVD and watch it unedited, that might be good for you.
If sheer size and bulk is what concerns you, remember newer camcorders are getting smaller and smaller. Just check out whats out there on Amazon and read the professional reviews at http://www.cnet.com
Goodspeed Wrote:I don't know much about them, but you could look into a DVD camcorder. They burn video direct to DVD, and as a result they aren't well suited to those who like to edit video. But if you just want to pop in the DVD and watch it unedited, that might be good for you.
A DVD camcorder is about of a good idea as a HardDrive camcorder in a track car. Have you ever ridden in a car on track?
Andy Wrote:*Edit* Justifying purchase to wife will require it to serve double duty for her use as well so it can't be *too* track specific.
Just saw this.
You will spend LESS money if you get a 'track' setup and a 'home' setup. I'm none to happy to have to re-buy a digital cam after 2 years.
I was looking into some cheaper alternatives for this very purpose, primarily autox so that I could mount and see hand movements. I came across a few cameras with examples of output that I liked. The ones I came across are all MiniDV which normally has some sort of image stabilization involved with it. They don't seem to skip and can take a relatively good picture. The one I liked the most was the Elura 100 which is no longer made but can be obtained from Ebay. It has a remote and secondary mic inputs which is a plus and I think costs a little under $300.00. This camera has been replaced by the ZR series which the top of the line has no secondary mic input but has other nice features and the bottom of the line has the input but down on some visuals. The ZR series are right at the $300.00 range as well. It would be great to get into HD but that puts you up about $1000.00 for even a more basic model. These are all Canons that I'm talking about and I know there are plenty of others out there available but these are the ones I personally like the best. This maybe totally off case of what you want but just throwing out some of my research on the subject.
Heres the Elura 100 (decreased in quality because of youtube):
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white_2kgt Wrote:A DVD camcorder is about of a good idea as a HardDrive camcorder in a track car. Have you ever ridden in a car on track?
Yes, a couple times on track and several times at auto-x's. I said I don't know much about DVD (as I'm interested in editing, so I never looked into them). But now if his wife wants to use it as well then they are dead simple to use and I'm sure she'd like it as well. But no I don't know how it would perform on track. I think RJ posted up some video of him using a Canon ZR series and it looked fine, I doubt theres any real reason to stray away from a tape-based camcorder.
Goodspeed Wrote:white_2kgt Wrote:A DVD camcorder is about of a good idea as a HardDrive camcorder in a track car. Have you ever ridden in a car on track?
Yes, a couple times on track and several times at auto-x's. I said I don't know much about DVD...
His point is that the ride is so bumpy nothing but tape (or maybe flash) will be able to record well on track.
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CaptainHenreh Wrote:His point is that the ride is so bumpy nothing but tape (or maybe flash) will be able to record well on track.
And the vibration will kill it in short order.
I know evan bought some sort of dvd/hard drive camcorder thing and was planning on mounting it in a case somewhere, but I dont know if he ever did anything with it.
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
canon zr... case closed. get the cheapest one you can find because it will break.
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ZR500 isnt a great buy - look for a ZR60/ZR70/etc on ebay.
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
The ZR800 is supposed to be a pretty decent bottom line camera, Has the mic-input and some decent features and it looks to cost about $249.00 or something like that. It can't take stills and doesn't have the best low light capabilities. The top of the line is the ZR850, I think its about the same price and has better performance but no mic-input. Just a few more to think about.
Mike Wrote:canon zr... case closed. get the cheapest one you can find because it will break.
Case NOT closed, yep mine broke.
If you MUST get a tape based camera then get 8mm, NOT MiniDV, mini DV is to susceptible to errors due to vibrations. I had a miniDV camera and every hard bump or even hard shift would introduce errors. Probably one reason why it didn't last very long. Around the carousel at Summit I'd see maybe 1/3 of it on the tape, the rest would be errors.
I never had an issue with Mini DV, FWIW - maybe the advice should be "dont drive a mustang" :lol:
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
same.
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white_2kgt Wrote:If you MUST get a tape based camera then get 8mm...
+1
I've had my Digital 8 for like 7 years with no problems whatsoever so I'm partial to that format. I think they're also cheaper than MiniDV since price is a concern with you.
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Apoc Wrote:+1
I've had my Digital 8 for like 7 years with no problems whatsoever so I'm partial to that format. I think they're also cheaper than MiniDV since price is a concern with you.
Oh, so now you dont want to spend more $$ on something because its better and what you have does the job just fine? Hypocrite!
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(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
I've seen no real evidence that MiniDV is better for our application at our price point.
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FWIW, my camera was ~$1000 when I got it so it's definitely not because it was cheaper.
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Apoc Wrote:FWIW, my camera was ~$1000 when I got it so it's definitely not because it was cheaper.
But it was 7-8 years ago - camcorders werent exactly a commodity product like they are now.
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
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