Because you're paying for services not rendered? If they undervalue a bike that you JUST paid X$ for, you're getting effed. take them to court, and get a new insurance company.
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Apoc Wrote:What was I thinking... you're Mike and nothing is ever your fault. Hard to be "holier than thou" when I actually admit my fuck ups.
you know you're just being a douche to be a douche when you forget that i had an accident before that, which i have no problem saying was 100% my fault.
again, you weren't there, shut the fuck up.
I Am Mike
4 wheels: '01 RAV4 (Formerly '93 Civic CX, '01 S2000, '10 GTI, '09 A4 Avant)
2 wheels: '12 Surly Cross-Check Custom | '14 Trek Madone 2.1 105 | '17 Norco Threshold SL Force 1 | '17 Norco Revolver 9.2 FS | '18 BMC Roadmachine 02 Two | '19 Norco Search XR Steel (Formerly '97 Honda VFR750F, '05 Giant TCR 2, '15 WeThePeople Atlas 24, '10 Scott Scale 29er XT, '11 Cervelo R3 Rival, '12 Ridley X-Fire Red)
No longer onyachin.
asteele2 Wrote:If the value were to suck, are those the kinds of things you can negotiate?
See "Arbitration Clause" in your policy... it should detail your rights to reject what's offered.
'76 911S | '14 328xi | '17 GTI | In memoriam: '08 848, '85 944
"Here, at last, is the cure for texting while driving. The millions of deaths which occur every year due to the iPhone’s ability to stream the Kim K/Ray-J video in 4G could all be avoided, every last one of them, if the government issued everyone a Seventies 911 and made sure they always left the house five minutes later than they’d wanted to. It would help if it could be made to rain as well. Full attention on the road. Guaranteed." -Jack Baruth
Why is everybody so damn litigation happy?
"I don't think this is a fair value, here's a subpeona" isn't exactly an appropriate reaction.
When it comes to Ryan Jenkins, the story ends with me putting him in the wall.
2009 Speed Triple | 2006 DR-Z400SM | 1999 CBR600F4 | 1998 Jeep Cherokee
-Ginger
Apoc Wrote:See "Arbitration Clause" in your policy... it should detail your rights to reject what's offered.
Cool - I'll do that.
When it comes to Ryan Jenkins, the story ends with me putting him in the wall.
2009 Speed Triple | 2006 DR-Z400SM | 1999 CBR600F4 | 1998 Jeep Cherokee
-Ginger
asteele2 Wrote:Why is everybody so damn litigation happy?
it's the american way :roll:
A bit late but rather appropriate:
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Quote:When you have kids you introduce an incredible burden on your life, and often of the rest of your family - so its a bit selfish to then look at them and accuse them of burdening you. Know what I'm getting at? If you werent involved in something 'high risk' then you're not suddenly off the hook of being at risk of burdening your family in some way.
You did not need to list the burdens but you left out something very important...the burden evolves over time. A parent has every right to ask an independent grown child to not engage is riskier than necessary behavior that could result in reverting that burden to the daily tending of that child. His moms job/burden of changing diapers and tending to his daily basic survival needs has passed. It is the responsibility of the child to minimize the risk of putting that burden BACK on his parents. Selfish is a two way street.
For example...if my 4 year old has an accident in his pants, I will clean him and change him. If my 14 year old does the same...she is on her own, that burden has passed. Many more examples exist...
And asking your child not do something that scares the shit out of you is not selfish, it's being a parent.
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Former: 2010 Ford Edge | 1999 Integra GS
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Late addition: I got my deductible reimbursement in the mail last night. I didn't have to ask for it, much less fight tooth and nail. Through this whole thing, I've been incredibly impressed with Progressive. While Allstate was busy trying to underhandedly get me to sign away any claims I could have made to personal injury, Progressive did a great job of seeing I got what I deserved. They took good care of JayRay, too, which I think says a lot because in his accident, he was at fault. I'll be sticking with them for a while, for sure.
When it comes to Ryan Jenkins, the story ends with me putting him in the wall.
2009 Speed Triple | 2006 DR-Z400SM | 1999 CBR600F4 | 1998 Jeep Cherokee
-Ginger
just another data point... when i made a claim against a progressive member (as a member of state farm), i had a hell of a time. they wouldn't pay for quality repairs, they were awful about returning calls, and to this day i'm still working with them to get an f'ing scratch on my bumper (the actual accident) fixed properly.
I Am Mike
4 wheels: '01 RAV4 (Formerly '93 Civic CX, '01 S2000, '10 GTI, '09 A4 Avant)
2 wheels: '12 Surly Cross-Check Custom | '14 Trek Madone 2.1 105 | '17 Norco Threshold SL Force 1 | '17 Norco Revolver 9.2 FS | '18 BMC Roadmachine 02 Two | '19 Norco Search XR Steel (Formerly '97 Honda VFR750F, '05 Giant TCR 2, '15 WeThePeople Atlas 24, '10 Scott Scale 29er XT, '11 Cervelo R3 Rival, '12 Ridley X-Fire Red)
No longer onyachin.
Maybe that's why they paid me so well 
When it comes to Ryan Jenkins, the story ends with me putting him in the wall.
2009 Speed Triple | 2006 DR-Z400SM | 1999 CBR600F4 | 1998 Jeep Cherokee
-Ginger
Is progressive motorcycle insurance a different group than auto insurance?
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
The thing both these situations have in common is the problem is with the other persons insurance company.
Mike, Andrew's quick resolution was the reason why I told you to get your insurance company involved. It's much easier to get your own company to take care of you then it is someone else's. If the other company shits on you, what business do they lose?
'76 911S | '14 328xi | '17 GTI | In memoriam: '08 848, '85 944
"Here, at last, is the cure for texting while driving. The millions of deaths which occur every year due to the iPhone’s ability to stream the Kim K/Ray-J video in 4G could all be avoided, every last one of them, if the government issued everyone a Seventies 911 and made sure they always left the house five minutes later than they’d wanted to. It would help if it could be made to rain as well. Full attention on the road. Guaranteed." -Jack Baruth
.RJ Wrote:Is progressive motorcycle insurance a different group than auto insurance?
Kind of... same phone numbers, different 'team'. JayRay and I had the same case worker even though our situations were totally different. I'm sure you remember her  She was a motorcycle/rv/pwc agent for Progressive - they're a specialized unit since repair and valuation is often a bit different than cars. It's advantageous in that you get -all- the big company benefits in addition to all the small group benefits. I'm kind of surprised at how happy I am.
When it comes to Ryan Jenkins, the story ends with me putting him in the wall.
2009 Speed Triple | 2006 DR-Z400SM | 1999 CBR600F4 | 1998 Jeep Cherokee
-Ginger
asteele2 Wrote:They took good care of JayRay, too, which I think says a lot because in his accident, he was at fault. I'll be sticking with them for a while, for sure.
I completely agree with Andrew. Of all the claims i've made (6 through USAA auto and my motorcycle claim through progressive) the Progressive claim was the easiest by FAR. No hassel, good numbers, and a great agent.
asteele2 Wrote:.RJ Wrote:Is progressive motorcycle insurance a different group than auto insurance?
Kind of... same phone numbers, different 'team'. JayRay and I had the same case worker even though our situations were totally different. I'm sure you remember her
i think they're very different, but i think it really depends on the agent, the manager, and the team for it to be a good experience.
and yes i do remember her....i'll make a facebook-like comment...i'd poke her
Well, this is un-fucking-believable. I came home tonight and had a subpeona to appear in court as a witness about the goddamn accident.
The woman that ran a stop sign and HIT ME is now contesting the ticket and saying she didn't break any laws. Apparently this is well beyond the regular "Not Guilty" court appearance. I'm really angry, at this point. You hit me with a 4,000 pound SUV and try and shirk the insurance claim.... alright, that's shitty, but I let it go. But you seriously believe you didn't do anything wrong? What the fuck is wrong with you?
I didn't bring it up before, because I was just trying to be decent. But when I go in to court (on Monday, btw), I'm going to bring up that she didn't stop when she hit me. I'm sure it's too late to file intent-to-flea charges, but it will go a long way towards establishing her lack of situational awareness.
When it comes to Ryan Jenkins, the story ends with me putting him in the wall.
2009 Speed Triple | 2006 DR-Z400SM | 1999 CBR600F4 | 1998 Jeep Cherokee
-Ginger
you got a lawyer? i'm sure she does...
It's VA vs. Her, not her vs me. I'm clear at this point, just a witness, no need for me to get a lawyer.
When it comes to Ryan Jenkins, the story ends with me putting him in the wall.
2009 Speed Triple | 2006 DR-Z400SM | 1999 CBR600F4 | 1998 Jeep Cherokee
-Ginger
oh phew, i hope she get's bitch slapped by the hand of VA gov't in that case...."you didn't have your headlight on..."....hell, i want to bitch slap her
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