Apparently the title of this thread is a little more accurate than a lot of people thought.
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RawrImAMonster Wrote:Apparently the title of this thread is a little more accurate than a lot of people thought.
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Hmm.
Impressive, but STILL taking an M3 if both were just laying in front of me. I'm sure the track experience is still much better in the M3.
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I'm sure just about anyone would, but you could just about buy another GT with the amount you save over picking the mustang if you had to pay for them.
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The new 'stang is majorly badass but god it needs more low. If I bought one I'd roll right from the dealership to my garage and drop it two inches before I drove it again. I'd order the mods before I got the car.
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Every once in a while there is a new grabber blue GT on the way home from work... there is no way I could turn that car down if I had the money.
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magazine numbers racing is the most flaming fanboi shit ever
Evan Wrote:magazine numbers racing is the most flaming fanboi shit ever :lol:
RawrImAMonster Wrote:I'm sure just about anyone would, but you could just about buy another GT with the amount you save over picking the mustang if you had to pay for them.
Perfect! Now i have one to park and another to crash into it with! lol i'm just kidding, it really is a steal at that price. Just not much of a Mustang guy myself unless it's a Shelby or something else noteworthy.
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Soooo skidpad and braking distance indicate how a car can hang with one another on track? I guess I should give up on my e36 M3 cause it did poorly in both, yet was awarded the "best handling car at any price" in the day.
I do love the new mustang and think it looks great, while I think the new M3 looks like garbage. But as ive woken my eyes to with my e36 m3, it has poor stats, but good god does it do voodoo magic or something it crushes at the track and autocross. Point is, stats dont tell the whole story, but if I wanted to be scarily honest, I would buy the 2011 Mustang 5.0 over a 2011 M3 if it was my money. M3 is too ugly to be that expensive, its only sexy dropped, wheels, and in white coupe form.
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I don't understand all the hate (other threads play into this) for some good old fashioned bench racing.
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I have a little bit of a rub near lock but if you are turned to lock on a track there are other problems already...
Steve85 Wrote:I don't understand all the hate (other threads play into this) for some good old fashioned bench racing.
MM forum = domestihate central.
fiveoh2go Wrote:Steve85 Wrote:I don't understand all the hate (other threads play into this) for some good old fashioned bench racing.
MM forum = domestihate central.
Hmmm I'm going to start using that term lol.
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2011 Shelby GT500 at Virginia International Raceway Grand West Course
Coming from a drag oriented background, a second quicker ET in the quarter is a huge improvement. On VIR's Grand West Course how much of an improvement is it to run a lap time that is nine seconds quicker when compared to last years model?
puuuuush!
looks like a fun ride... and that's fast 
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fiveoh2go Wrote:Coming from a drag oriented background, a second quicker ET in the quarter is a huge improvement. On VIR's Grand West Course how much of an improvement is it to run a lap time that is nine seconds quicker when compared to last years model?
Its huge, but if you're not controlling the variables its not a great comparison. Tires on a course that big can be worth 3-4 seconds alone, track conditions easily 1-3 seconds, and of course the driver is the biggest variable. The car certainly looked fast but the driver isnt too smooth (lts of pitch and catch, early apexing) and is leaving a lot of time on the table. I wouldnt read too much into it other than the car really hauls the mail down the straights
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
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The new mustangs have been classed.... I am shocked, for all this bench racing, the SCCA deems the mustang MUCH slower than any M3. I dont see how an E36 M3 in C-Stock while the new v6 and GT mustang is in F stock. Thats quite a number of classes down. Hell the Gt500 is in bstock...same as an E46 M3, but lower than an E92.
So much for the GT hanging with an M3, not even close, according to SCCA, the new GT cant even hang with a 90s (or even 80s) M3. 
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autox != race track. sure, a 4000lb (i'm exagerrating) beast that has a giant motor isn't going to handle with something as well balanced as what bmw put out in the 90s
do you want awesome numbers or do you want an awesome car? i'll take the car, which is why ford still isn't getting "it."
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D_Eclipse9916 Wrote:h
So much for the GT hanging with an M3, not even close, according to SCCA, the new GT cant even hang with a 90s (or even 80s) M3.
Apples to Kumquats.
I'd take the 400hp V8 for a street car any day.
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
Thanks for the info guys.
....oh and the GT500 has 550hp, it's the lowly GT that has "only" 412. :twisted:
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