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#41
Evan Wrote:since when does rooting for a team in a meaningless sports game equate to choosing the leader of the free world who has the ability to improve or drastically reduce the quality of your life in the present and or future?

besides, Alan is a Dolphins fan so he is always rooting for a team that has no chance of winning! :lol:

It doesn't equate to the same thing, but the idea fits, at least to me. What's the point of watching the superbowl with the Giants and Patriots wearing a Browns jersey going, "The browns are totally going to win the big game in 8 years, YEAH ROOT FOR THE BROWNS." Just doesn't make much sense. I like Ron Paul more than any candidate that has been around since I've been able to vote, but voting for him in the final election just seems pointless, sorta like throwing you vote away. That's just my opinion though.
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#44
Barr sounds great, but a vote for him is a vote for Obama. Its great that you're trying to make a stand and Im sure many people would follow but right now is not the right time. If you dont care if Obama is president, be a guest and vote for Barr. But in all seriousness Barr is not going to win and hes taking votes away from McCain which is why Obama will win. So think about that when we cast your vote you might as well vote for obama.
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This guy presents an interesting side to the Obama vs McCain.

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rezarxt Wrote:But in all seriousness Barr is not going to win and hes taking votes away from McCain which is why Obama will win. So think about that when we cast your vote you might as well vote for obama.

Just curious, what leads you to believe that he's taking votes away from McCain? Again, looking at Perot, exit polls showed that he "took" votes away from the other two pretty equally, and the rest were people who said they wouldn't have voted for the other two or not voted at all. I would put myself in that 3rd category, no way would I vote republican OR democrat until one of them puts up a candidate that is straightforward, can answer questions, and doesn't just say whatever he's told to say by professionals that know what we need to hear.

FWIW, I am considering more mainstream candidates for House and Senate, but that's because I've seen their performance, heard them speak, and think there's some chance that they will do a good job. My decision has little to do with their party affiliation if they've demonstrated they aren't afraid to vote against their party.
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BLINGMW Wrote:Just curious, what leads you to believe that he's taking votes away from McCain?

Obama, rightfully or wrongfully, seems to have solid support from his party. Hes a very good public speaker and is very good at bringing people together although he can be somewhat polarizing concerning republicans.

McCain on the other hand is between a rock and a hard place. Before he picked Palin, people said he wasn't conservative enough (thats when I liked him more) and now that he picked Palin, a lot of people say shes too conservative. So hes trying to please everyone yet scaring away many people towards other candidates or not voting at all. From what Ive seen many Barr voters are typically ones who are in the middle but lean slightly towards conservative. Thus McCain is losing those "on the fencers" to Barr and other independents. That is just what Ive seen. I read through Barrs policies and I liked almost everyone. Its just right now my goal is to not have Obama in office. Ill be commissioned in the Army in a few years and it wont be pretty under Obama. So its in my personal interest and the interest of my future to get someone who will treat the military better. Im not voting for McCain because I like him.
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#48
for the record if i weren't voting for bob barr id be voting for obama, i hate neoconservatives
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#49
Evan Wrote:besides, Alan is a Dolphins fan so he is always rooting for a team that has no chance of winning! :lol:

That explains a lot. Big Grin
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#50
OT!

9-6 for about 30 years and the only perfect season (with the exception of the last couple of years)! What a crappy team.

Yes I saw them in '71-'75. The Pats were not a better team. The fish amassed that season with a backup QB.
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Stop livin in the past old man!
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#52
Well after some thinking and reading of the polls... I'm feel I'm going to toss my hat in with the revolution. Maybe one day the collective voice will be heard. My biggest sticking point with the traditional parties... they butcher the Constitution of this fine country to fit their agenda.

Thanks to Rex and Channing for helping realize if the bandwagon is going to gain speed and get big, you need to jump on early.
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#53
Awesome!

Kaan Wrote:Thanks to Rex and Channing for helping realize if the bandwagon is going to gain speed and get big, you need to jump on early.
also, all the comfy seats will be taken if you wait!
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#54
Kaan Wrote:Thanks to Rex and Channing for helping realize if the bandwagon is going to gain speed and get big, you need to jump on early.

This is a little unexpected, I'll be honest. I figured you'd be a "I gotta vote against obama" guy.

Anyway in a similar vein, all you NoVA voters, please don't vote for Feder. She's creepy.

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#55
The problem with Libertarians is that on some (most?) issues they are very very right, and on other issues they are very very very wrong.
Why the republicans and democrats are intrenched is because they are so good at bullshitting just enough to only be sort of wrong on everything (plus pandering and giving gifts), thus pissing off less amounts of people.

All I really know is that Im voting for that Fimian guy. I dont even know who he is running against but I've never seen such dirty mudslinging. Well, at least since Jim Webb.....
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#56
Evan Wrote:and on other issues they are very very very wrong.
Any examples that stand out? Have we discussed them on here before?
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BLINGMW Wrote:
Evan Wrote:and on other issues they are very very very wrong.
Any examples that stand out? Have we discussed them on here before?
I'd like to know the examples as well, just get inside Evan's head :-). Theres a couple issues I disagree with, but they more than make up for it by being an exact match on so many others.
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School reform starts by shifting control over education from government to parents. We must abolish the Department of Education, eliminate federal grants and regulations, and begin moving power back to the states and local communities. States should consider tax credits or deductions for parents who home school or send their children to private schools. Public schools should be managed locally, increasing accountability and parental involvement.

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Regardless of whether one supports or opposes same sex marriage, the decision to recognize such unions ought to be made by each state rather than imposed as a one-size-fits-all mandate by the federal government. Any federal laws that prevent states from determining their own standards for marriage should be repealed; the federal government should not define marriage, whether by statute or constitutional amendment.

This guy is a moron.
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#59
LOL There is no way i'd vote for feder. shes a nutjob.
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SethM Wrote:This guy is a moron.

Those are standard, small-federal-government positions. What's moronic about it? I agree with both of them. Am I a moron?
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