Shit bitch, I bought one of those the first winter I had the bike... but I used a credit card. You know, those things people aren't supposed to leave in unlocked vehicles for others to steal because they're so easy to use?
Uhhh... dual monitors blah blah blah... and stuff.
'76 911S | '14 328xi | '17 GTI | In memoriam: '08 848, '85 944
"Here, at last, is the cure for texting while driving. The millions of deaths which occur every year due to the iPhone’s ability to stream the Kim K/Ray-J video in 4G could all be avoided, every last one of them, if the government issued everyone a Seventies 911 and made sure they always left the house five minutes later than they’d wanted to. It would help if it could be made to rain as well. Full attention on the road. Guaranteed." -Jack Baruth
Apoc Wrote:You know, those things people aren't supposed to leave in unlocked vehicles for others to steal because they're so easy to use?
Do you pay someone to lock your vehicle for you?
Apoc Wrote:Uhhh... dual monitors blah blah blah... and stuff.
Ok, back on topic. If I can only use one computer at a time, why not take advantage of dual screen all the time?
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
No I can do that because it's just a single push button. It's simple, I can do simple.
The monitors is personal opinion, I guess. I mean I use my work laptop here at home more than I do at work and I don't even have a docking station for it. If I want dual, I use dual. If I want mobility I use mobility. I think maybe we should just agree to disargee and you should buy your dual KVM switch, new video card and DVI adapter.
I forgot to mention I have two VGA/DVI adapters in my desk drawer. 
'76 911S | '14 328xi | '17 GTI | In memoriam: '08 848, '85 944
"Here, at last, is the cure for texting while driving. The millions of deaths which occur every year due to the iPhone’s ability to stream the Kim K/Ray-J video in 4G could all be avoided, every last one of them, if the government issued everyone a Seventies 911 and made sure they always left the house five minutes later than they’d wanted to. It would help if it could be made to rain as well. Full attention on the road. Guaranteed." -Jack Baruth
.RJ Wrote:I got a new laptop, docking station and flat screen from my new job, the docking station/monistor will stay at home and I'm looking to add a second monitor - I cant do this with my 17" CRT and a flat screen due to desk real estate, so I'd like to pick up another flat screen and run 2 monitors. But... I'd like to be able to use the same keyboard, mouse and dual screens for both my laptop and desktop machine.
As always, I'm so far behind the technology curve that I am trying to figure out how to do this. What I know:
- My new (work) flat screen has both DVI and VGA inputs
- Docking station has DVI and VGA outputs
- A dual monitor VGA switch is around $100 ( <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817107215">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817107215</a><!-- m --> )
- A dual monitor DVI switch is around $175 (<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817107223">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817107223</a><!-- m --> )
- I found a dual VGA video card at CompUSA (the tysons store is closing - everything is 20% off) for under $50
- A dual DVI video card is going to be $100 or more
So, *I* think that the smart money is on using a DVI --> VGA converter plug, and just using the VGA stuff - unless there is a compelling reason to use DVI? The monitor looks just fine to me using VGA input.
Now, I still need to pick up a monitor - any recommendations? Dell has a 20" flat widescreen for $230, but its the "economy" model. CompUSA has some 19-20" widescreen for around the same price in store as well.
I would avoid adapters if you can, so if you can swing the extra $75 on DVI switch, get that, on the other hand if you can get a decent video card w/ Dual VGA ports, get that. Just avoid the Adapters.
Oh and you will need to spend more than $100 on a video card, get nothing less than a 7600GS, the evga cost ~120 and it will come with DVI->VGA connectors, just get whatever name brand has the connectors you need for the KVM.
I have this Sceptre monitor,
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actually I have 2 of that brand one is a 19" that I've had a for a few yrs now and I just got the 22", no problems out of either.
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On the Video card I just got a 7600GS PCI-E and I'm going to get another AGP one for the living room.  No need for a laptop anymore,
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GTR2!!!
Any issues with a 19" and a 22" screen running on the same video card? For some reason I think having different resolutions is going to irritate me off in the long run, or scramble my brain.
white_2kgt Wrote:Oh and you will need to spend more than $100 on a video card, get nothing less than a 7600GS
I have to ask, why?
I should qualify my question with the use of the computer - interweb, email, porn, movies, virtual NES, maybe some GTR2 or LFS if I ever get off my ass and buy a wheel, and work stuff (email, MS office, SQL development, application server stuff, etc).
The current video card in there wasnt more than $100 when I bought the PC 4 or so years ago and I have zero complaints about it. I think its a 256mb somthingorrather, so even something equivalent with dual VGA outputs I'll be happy with.
With my raptop docking station I'll have to use at least one adapter, since I've got one DVI and one VGA output, but I'd rather just one one and keep everything else the same. VGA is cheaper, and it aint busted.
I guess it sounds like I've made up my mind here, and I more or less have... but if there's a reason to do otherwise I'd like to hear it, and not just because whatever technowankery that is going to cost me more $$ is better.
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
There's no chance you bought a 256mb video card for $100 4 years ago. Did they even have 256mb that weren't ultra-leet bling bling that long ago? My old machine was built about that time and I have a 128mb in there and it cost me a pretty penny. Hell I think you'd be hard pressed to find a decent name brand 256mb for must less than $100 today.
If you don't know why the more expensive things are better then you won't know the difference anyway so save your money.
If you want one of these DVI/VGA adapters let me know.
'76 911S | '14 328xi | '17 GTI | In memoriam: '08 848, '85 944
"Here, at last, is the cure for texting while driving. The millions of deaths which occur every year due to the iPhone’s ability to stream the Kim K/Ray-J video in 4G could all be avoided, every last one of them, if the government issued everyone a Seventies 911 and made sure they always left the house five minutes later than they’d wanted to. It would help if it could be made to rain as well. Full attention on the road. Guaranteed." -Jack Baruth
I don't have a problem running 2 resolutions but that may be b/c of the way I use the dual monitors. I do most of my work on the 22". I use that machine mainly for video/photo editing/development. With Pinnacle I run the studio on the widescreen (timeline/cropping/etc) and I run the preview on the other, Pinnacle resizes it to 800x600 anyway. This way I can get full size preview of what I am editing in real time, it's been great.
For photo editing I run adobe lightroom on the 19", launch the photo in Photoshop on the widescreen and have the toolkit on the 19".
If you plan on spanning your app to both monitors then running 2 different sizes might be a problem, but I have NEVER liked that. At work I have dual 19" for development. I run eclipse/debug window on one, a browser on the other, but even then 2 different resolutions wouldn't bother me.
Show me a video card for 100 or less and I'll show you why its a piece of shit. A $100 video card is several years old. Especially, if you want to play games, like I said, you need a 7600GS or better. Does your mobo support PCIe or do you need to stick with AGP? If AGP your best bet right now is a 7600GT for ~130. I think sams club had a PCIe 7600GT for 110, thats the cheapest I've seen a name brand card, but it had no fan on the GPU.
I"ll need to check the memory on the video card when I get back in town - I remember spending roughly an extra $100 on the video card upgrade when I built the PC with Dell 4 years ago
Apoc Wrote:If you don't know why the more expensive things are better then you won't know the difference anyway so save your money.
I fully understand the concept of you get what you pay for - but spending mroe $$ just because the specs on the box are better is a piss poor reason for me. Its like spending more $$ buying a RS4 over an S4 when all you do is drive 4 miles each way to work - sure its "better" on the window sticker but you never use the "better" part.
I'm questioning why I need to spend $120 - $150 on a new video card, when my current 4 year old video card works just fine for everything I've used the PC for. Call it a piece of shit, thats fine with me. If it works, it works.
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
.RJ Wrote:I"ll need to check the memory on the video card when I get back in town - I remember spending roughly an extra $100 on the video card upgrade when I built the PC with Dell 4 years ago
That probably means you got a 128mb.
Why do you need to spend all that money for dual monitor when one works just fine? Why get a new truck when your 110k mile Ford works just fine? Why get an RC51 when your F3 works just fine. Okay that last one is a bad example but you see my point.
We're not just telling you to get it because the numbers are higher so it must be better, obviously we know the differences. We can tell you a better video card and DVI setup will perform/look better but that's not going to convince you because you're dead set on what you have is good enough.
'76 911S | '14 328xi | '17 GTI | In memoriam: '08 848, '85 944
"Here, at last, is the cure for texting while driving. The millions of deaths which occur every year due to the iPhone’s ability to stream the Kim K/Ray-J video in 4G could all be avoided, every last one of them, if the government issued everyone a Seventies 911 and made sure they always left the house five minutes later than they’d wanted to. It would help if it could be made to rain as well. Full attention on the road. Guaranteed." -Jack Baruth
Apoc Wrote:Why do you need to spend all that money for dual monitor when one works just fine?
I want more real estate, which I could really only do with flat screens, and now one flat screen was free - gets the ball rolling. That, and I'll be working from home more, so it will be nice - I had 2 screens at the last job when the company bought new monitors for everyone.
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
.RJ Wrote:I"ll need to check the memory on the video card when I get back in town - I remember spending roughly an extra $100 on the video card upgrade when I built the PC with Dell 4 years ago
A 'dell' upgrade isn't really something you can compare to the aftermarket.
.RJ Wrote:I fully understand the concept of you get what you pay for - but spending mroe $$ just because the specs on the box are better is a piss poor reason for me. Its like spending more $$ buying a RS4 over an S4 when all you do is drive 4 miles each way to work - sure its "better" on the window sticker but you never use the "better" part.
If you are a happy with your current video card then why upgrade?? I'm currently running a FX5500 on my plasma, its a 128 card and it isn't enough to run GTR2 even at low res with a decent frame rate. Nor does it support the native resolution for my plasma (6px to short). I was under the impression that you needed a new video card and I would hate to see someone spend $100 on a piece of crap when you could add another 20-30 to that and actually get something decent. The 7600GS is the MIN video card you can get to play back HD video, I have no idea if that's something you want to do right _now_, but maybe you will in a year or two, if so, you would have a video card capable of playing it.
Was the only reason you were thinking of upgrading is so could could get dual DVI's instead of Dual VGA outs? If both monitors you have will support VGA just stick with that over DVI, I've ran everything, VGA, DVI, HDMI, I've had far less problems with plain old VGA.
Another thing to consider if you're in the mood for bargain basement is just to add another VGA video card to your desktop (if your chassis supports it). If you've already got 1 VGA, I'm sure someone around here has another VGA lying around they can just give you. Then your out of pocket for only the monitor (sunk cost) and the dual KVM switch.
'76 911S | '14 328xi | '17 GTI | In memoriam: '08 848, '85 944
"Here, at last, is the cure for texting while driving. The millions of deaths which occur every year due to the iPhone’s ability to stream the Kim K/Ray-J video in 4G could all be avoided, every last one of them, if the government issued everyone a Seventies 911 and made sure they always left the house five minutes later than they’d wanted to. It would help if it could be made to rain as well. Full attention on the road. Guaranteed." -Jack Baruth
Apoc Wrote:Another thing to consider if you're in the mood for bargain basement is just to add another VGA video card to your desktop (if your chassis supports it). If you've already got 1 VGA, I'm sure someone around here has another VGA lying around they can just give you. Then your out of pocket for only the monitor (sunk cost) and the dual KVM switch.
oh god, he probably has a AGP mobo, so in this case he'd have to run a 2nd PCI video card, what a nightmare and talk about old school video card...I bet I have a viper 770 laying around somewhere circa 1998...
white_2kgt Wrote:A 'dell' upgrade isn't really something you can compare to the aftermarket.
I ditched the onboard video shit, and went with a non-dell video and sound card. I honestly forget the brand right now.
white_2kgt Wrote:If you are a happy with your current video card then why upgrade?? I'm currently running a FX5500 on my plasma, its a 128 card and it isn't enough to run GTR2 even at low res with a decent frame rate.
My current card has one VGA out. I need to change it to run 2 screens.
white_2kgt Wrote:Nor does it support the native resolution for my plasma (6px to short). I was under the impression that you needed a new video card and I would hate to see someone spend $100 on a piece of crap when you could add another 20-30 to that and actually get something decent.
Thats good to know - the one I looked at in the store was < $50, 256mb ATI card with dual VGA outs.
white_2kgt Wrote:Was the only reason you were thinking of upgrading is so could could get dual DVI's instead of Dual VGA outs?
Nope, just need two VGA outs. I dont think I need to spend the $$ on DVI stuff.
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
Here's what I'd get if I were you,
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And I say that b/c I'm actually going to order one next week. It comes with a DVI->DSub adapter and I can give you another one if you need it to stay VGA. It's $25 more than your budget but is well worth it. I looked over newegg for Dual VGA cards and I wouldn't recommend any of them, the chipsets are at best 4 years old.
Again, I'm assuming you have an AGP mobo, and not PCIe. My 7600GS PCIe was only 104, go figure a graphics card for an older mobo cost more.
Whats the speed of the computer BTW? If this is an old P3 I've just wasted most of my evening recommending useless stuff to you.
Its a P4, 2.4ghz (again, going on memory), 1 gig of memory.
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(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
rjizzle, i just unpacked my racing wheel. it's some logitech momo thing... it was the shizzle like 4 years ago all think it could still hold it's own.
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i think i'm done w/ pc games... my machine still runs new stuff pretty well, but the next upgrades are all new technology so it'd be expensive (sata, new mobo, proc, memory, pci-e vid card... yeah, looking at a grand). i think i'll stick to consoles.
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(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
.RJ Wrote:Its a P4, 2.4ghz (again, going on memory), 1 gig of memory.
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Terd. It's equal to a nvidia FX5500, which I have and it won't play GTR2 worth a crap (and this is on a P4 3ghz OCed to 3.4).
Apoc Wrote:Oh you're definitely not getting out to meet any women.... ever.
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