The "Failure to Obey Highway Sign" is what they give if they don't get you on radar or some other measuring method. It's a catchall because they don't have to say how fast you were actually going, only that they <b>observed</b> you going faster than the speed limit.
Bottom line is it's your word against his. If you lose, appeal.
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the naked eye... no matter how well trained cant determine the exact speed... he didnt see me going fast... his only cause to write the ticket was that he had to go 60mph to catch me. when i walk in there, charts and all, that judge is going to end up never beleiveing any "obersvation" that cop has for the rest of his career.  i'm going to sink that pigs battle ship.
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Let me know your courtdate man. I would really like to see it go down and now that I got laid off I have a lot of time.
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ok ... i'm facing 3 points... you are laid off... i dont feel so bad any more. If you are unemployed in a month... i'll fucking smack you. Get out there and find a job... if they gave you a package... use up a week of it... take 5 days for you... and get your ass out there and find another job.
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Kaan Wrote:If you are unemployed in a month... i'll fucking smack you.
damn yO, that's harsh, I just got a job last week after 2 months of searching.
Sorry to hear it Rob!  Now's your chance to get out of NOVA :wink:
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BLINGMW Wrote:Kaan Wrote:If you are unemployed in a month... i'll fucking smack you.
Sorry to hear it Rob! Now's your chance to get out of NOVA :wink:
Thanks, I hated those bastards anyways. I applied for an environmental scientist job in Charleston, SC. I go fishing on the Bay tomorrow
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BLINGMW Wrote:Now's your chance to get out of NOVA :wink:
ugh....what i would do to get out of Nova...
Sijray21 Wrote:BLINGMW Wrote:Now's your chance to get out of NOVA :wink:
ugh....what i would do to get out of Nova...
As a matter of fact I just got a call from a perspective employer for a position in Aberdeen, Maryland
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Feersty Wrote:As a matter of fact I just got a call from a perspective employer for a position in Aberdeen, Maryland 
i was referring to a much more dramatic shift in scenery (mid-cali near the bay area)
sorry to hear about the Job Feersty, but is this the same one you turned down last time?
so i take it the review you were patiently waiting for didn't go so well?
<3 you rob.
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jayray moving to san fran? hah.
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HAULN-SS Wrote:jayray moving to san fran? hah.
you know it (flail's wrist loosly)  hock:
Sijray21 Wrote:ugh....what i would do to get out of Nova...
Pack your car and go  I'm leaving after christmas (and I collect my bonus).
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
Mike Wrote:so i take it the review you were patiently waiting for didn't go so well?
<3 you rob. BWAHAHAHAHA
Quote:Speeding forfeits right of way (I looked it up).
Channing, when did you look this up because a few years back when I was in an accident the judge flat out told me that excessive speed doesn't forfeit the right of way. I was told that the annoying teennage girl who hit me could have been driving a rocket ship and I still have to yield the right of way to her.
My situation, left turn out onto a residential road w/25mph speed limit, never see the girl coming, she swerves to avoid me and catches the right front of my car. She was going so fast that when she hit me she shifted my entire engine bay over 2+". Judge ruled in her favor because of my aforementioned statement.
.RJ Wrote:Sijray21 Wrote:ugh....what i would do to get out of Nova...
Pack your car and go I'm leaving after christmas (and I collect my bonus).
lease until July, the details of finding a GOOD job out there, and i have to evaluate California's economy and the living situation. The only thing driving me there is the scenery and roads, haha.
surprise! They lied. Or the judge is an idiot. Or both! Hooray traffic court! Unless I'm grossly mis-interpreting this rather simple code:
§ 46.2-823. Unlawful speed forfeits right-of-way.
The driver of any vehicle traveling at an unlawful speed shall forfeit any right-of-way which he might otherwise have under this article.
found here (just the first place that popped up with VA traffic laws, I'm sure there are others):
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search here:
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The only thing that stops a bad guy with a van is a good guy with a van
yeah always have to quote the Code of VA directly.
Its sad that traffic court judges dont know their own damn laws
I got nailed for a failure to obey a highway sign (speed limit). Here's how this particular cop (and a couple of lawyers on the phone told me) was able to pin it on me. Since I didn't see her and passed her (lmao) but she didn't gun me, she would have been travelling the speed limit. So since it's my word against hers that she was travelling the speed limit (obvious loss), I was speeding since I passed her. In your case, since he was stationary, you might have a chance.
Of course he had to fucking speed to catch up to you. If you were going the speed limit and he was going the speed limit to catch you, physics would say that he would never catch up to you........
I doubt he went to college =p
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Technically speaking, he should never catch you anyway. If you pass a cop, and he's sitting still - and he takes off after you, you have already gone X amount of distance. By the time he gets to the end of X, you have gone another Y amount of distance...and so on and so on. The hare can never catch the tortoise.
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