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Mike Wrote:hrmmm so i'm doing some little tallies in my head...

500 for headwork
200 for hondata
150 for intake manifold
450 for exhaust
350 for header (i was thinking jdm 4-1, but i have a dc sports i suppose i could use)
350 for cams
100 for tune
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2100 for 35hp and little room for improvement

4000 for jdm b18c5 w/ lsd
-1000 for sale of my motor
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3000 for 60hp and stock reliability

hrm, maybe i ought to rethink this swap thing.

I think you'll see a little more than 35hp, but you're right...4 grand for a B18C5 + HLSD, minus what you can sell the LS motor for seems like a pretty good deal. I'm guessing there's a reason it's popular, you know?
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nope, they're still right around 4k. back when you were looking i'm pretty sure they were 5k.
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i guess my issue with the swap is they money is one lump sum... that's a tough one...
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track bike? :lol:
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
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.RJ Wrote:track bike? :lol:

i like my limbs and brain working the way they do, but thanks.
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2 wheels: '12 Surly Cross-Check Custom | '14 Trek Madone 2.1 105 | '17 Norco Threshold SL Force 1 | '17 Norco Revolver 9.2 FS | '18 BMC Roadmachine 02 Two | '19 Norco Search XR Steel (Formerly '97 Honda VFR750F, '05 Giant TCR 2, '15 WeThePeople Atlas 24, '10 Scott Scale 29er XT, '11 Cervelo R3 Rival, '12 Ridley X-Fire Red)

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Dont fall off? :dunno:
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
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Mike Wrote:
.RJ Wrote:track bike? :lol:

i like my limbs and brain working the way they do, but thanks.

haha, if you're cool with settling on that, then good for you!

what do those K motors go for these days?
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Mike, no matter what I think you're dead on about having an LSD. Even with (maybe especially with) FWD an LSD makes an enormous difference in a corner, IMHO.
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Maengelito Wrote:
Mike Wrote:
.RJ Wrote:track bike? :lol:

i like my limbs and brain working the way they do, but thanks.

haha, if you're cool with settling on that, then good for you!

what do those K motors go for these days?

more than i can afford, pal. and... they don't have a sweet vtec changeover Tongue
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.RJ Wrote:
HAULN-SS Wrote:I guess I dont know shit

Clearly.

A new head from honda is ~$1200, and thats bare... no valves, guides, cams or seals.

Yup, that's about what one of mine cost.
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CaptainHenreh Wrote:Even with (maybe especially with) FWD an LSD makes an enormous difference in a corner, IMHO.

Not on the LS motor. Even in the carousel at summit, you get a little inside wheelspin with a torsen, its really no different than with an open diff. Its probably worth a few tenths a lap at best.
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
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.RJ Wrote:
CaptainHenreh Wrote:Even with (maybe especially with) FWD an LSD makes an enormous difference in a corner, IMHO.

Not on the LS motor. Even in the carousel at summit, you get a little inside wheelspin with a torsen, its really no different than with an open diff. Its probably worth a few tenths a lap at best.

Undecided Sentra SE-R makes 145hp, and really benefits from a LSD. Doesn't the LS make like, 130?
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The SE-R also has Mac Struts, no camber and a pretty poor camber curve.
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
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.RJ Wrote:The SE-R also has Mac Struts, no camber and a pretty poor camber curve.

*yawn* Whatever. LSD=Good.
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CaptainHenreh Wrote:*yawn* Whatever. LSD=Good.

You cant poo-poo poor suspension design. The honda setup works pretty damn well, and with a fairly low HP track car the LSD just isnt that big of a deal. There are much "better" diffs out there than the OEM Torsen, too, but there are plenty of cars that hold track records with that diff installed.

So, yes, LSD = Good, but in mikey's case LSD = put it in whenever he puts in another transmission if he feels like it.
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
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Passenger seat and harness installed. Weighed everything and I'm only saving 5lbs by installing it all. Oh well, that wasn't the point anyway.

Also to do today: tighten all bolts on harnesses and seats, tighten rearview mirror, lower front by quarter of an inch and check all bolts up front.

Tonight or at the track: Flush brake fluid
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4 wheels:  '01 RAV4 (Formerly '93 Civic CX, '01 S2000, '10 GTI, '09 A4 Avant)
2 wheels: '12 Surly Cross-Check Custom | '14 Trek Madone 2.1 105 | '17 Norco Threshold SL Force 1 | '17 Norco Revolver 9.2 FS | '18 BMC Roadmachine 02 Two | '19 Norco Search XR Steel (Formerly '97 Honda VFR750F, '05 Giant TCR 2, '15 WeThePeople Atlas 24, '10 Scott Scale 29er XT, '11 Cervelo R3 Rival, '12 Ridley X-Fire Red)

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Mike Wrote:Passenger seat and harness installed. Weighed everything and I'm only saving 5lbs by installing it all. Oh well, that wasn't the point anyway.

Also to do today: tighten all bolts on harnesses and seats, tighten rearview mirror, lower front by quarter of an inch and check all bolts up front.

Tonight or at the track: Flush brake fluid

I can probably give you a hand with the brakes on friday if I get there early enough. I'm leaving around 12:30 from work and trying a different route which should take about 2 hrs. I also have some work I may do on my car once I get there. See you then!
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doesn't the track open at 530 though?

i said screw lowering the front... it looks fine and my camber kit definitely doesn't hit at this height so why bother?

all bolts on seats/harnesses tight.

to do: tighten rearview, install brake ducts (f'ing weather), flush brakes, pack.
I Am Mike
4 wheels:  '01 RAV4 (Formerly '93 Civic CX, '01 S2000, '10 GTI, '09 A4 Avant)
2 wheels: '12 Surly Cross-Check Custom | '14 Trek Madone 2.1 105 | '17 Norco Threshold SL Force 1 | '17 Norco Revolver 9.2 FS | '18 BMC Roadmachine 02 Two | '19 Norco Search XR Steel (Formerly '97 Honda VFR750F, '05 Giant TCR 2, '15 WeThePeople Atlas 24, '10 Scott Scale 29er XT, '11 Cervelo R3 Rival, '12 Ridley X-Fire Red)

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side note: does anyone know if there is a fix for pad knockback? i'm forced to tap the brakes before ten to get them back where they should be... it's getting old.
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2 wheels: '12 Surly Cross-Check Custom | '14 Trek Madone 2.1 105 | '17 Norco Threshold SL Force 1 | '17 Norco Revolver 9.2 FS | '18 BMC Roadmachine 02 Two | '19 Norco Search XR Steel (Formerly '97 Honda VFR750F, '05 Giant TCR 2, '15 WeThePeople Atlas 24, '10 Scott Scale 29er XT, '11 Cervelo R3 Rival, '12 Ridley X-Fire Red)

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