Project Hatch

[Maengelito]

...using a torque wrenching that was set in in-lbs instead of ft-lbs.

At least they were using it to tighten nuts and not roll fenders :roll:

haha, i have no clue who you're calling out. did mikey do that?

[Mike]

blah blah blah, yes. it wasn't mine. i didn't think it'd affect anything. my bad.

[white_2kgt]

blah blah blah, yes. it wasn't mine. i didn't think it'd affect anything. my bad.

No worries, I'm just giving you shit.

[navin]

i think it was jayray that drove us home from vixens one night in navin's hatch a few years back. i dont know if it even had a muffler, the thing seemed to rattle at every joint, and it felt like the car was pieced together by someone using a torque wrenching that was set in in-lbs instead of ft-lbs.

HEY NOW! :evil:

[D_Eclipse9916]

hahahahha....

I drove navin's civic from vixxens with you all drunk in there and the car did just fine lol. Of course that was also when jayray was driving the integra and had to take out his steering wheel and lock it away lol. Ridiculous.

[Mike]

INSPECTED! stock wheel was removed right out front of the shop following sticker application

fyi, i went to a place where my coworker's kit car passed. it had at least a dozen things wrong with it. i went in, guy dings me for no airbag and no horn... bleh... go home, put both on, remove block on the srs light, go back, pass.

hurray for the civic stigma!

[ScottyB]

wow....i bet those inspectors must get some good business then :lol:

[Mike]

at curry's now... skunk2 makes crap products... i managed to strip one of their bolts when putting the camber kit on. i ordered a new one about 3 weeks ago and still don't have it. sigh... so i'm here getting my alignment done and one side is stuck at -2.6 degrees so i'm stuck with going with that. little higher than i would have liked, but not out of this world so we'll see how it goes.

[.RJ]

Toss that hardware in the garbage and order some star washers, locknuts, washers and socket cap screws from McMaster - order several of each, and replace them each time you have the alignment done.

Grind the paint off the arms too where the alignment adjustment is as well.

[Mike]

will do when i feel the car is ready for an alignment next time...

i'm kind of glad we bumped it up to -2.6, it feels GREAT in corners. we'll just have to see if it affects my straight-line braking at all.

[HAULN-SS]

or maybe i should think about ls1... hrm...

edit: please post replies in my car thread... don't want to muck this up too badly.

fixt

[Mike]

post a link to someone who had done it and sells a kit, and i'll think about it.

[HAULN-SS]

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No kit though, that I know of

[.RJ]

Derek, shut up.

Mikey, you may want to consider having the head refreshed as well... $400-500, with a new gasket. The valve seats and seals are probably getting tired by now.

Header/Exhaust/Intake Manifold should net you ~20hp with a good ECU tune. Add a tranny and LSD and you should be able to take a chunk out of your laptimes. You should be done with that work by 2010

[Mike]

yeah, we're clearly in no rush i'm not going racing for a long while if ever...

oooh i should throw some nice lumpy cams in there too.

head refresh - how would i know i need it? my compression numbers are pretty decent and i'm not drinking any fluids. is 400-500 parts + labor?

[HAULN-SS]

Is it really that expensive to do headwork on those? I guess I dont know shit about import parts, but seems like you'd be able to buy a whole new one for that much eh? What are you calling headwork? Valve job, new seals, port and polish?

[.RJ]

400-500 is pulling the head yourself and dropping it off at the machine shop... they'll deck it (compression bump), do a valve job on it and put new valve seals in.

Cams could be worth it. I dunno what they cost. Headers you can probably find a used DC Sports piece for cheap - the HP difference between that and a $900+ SMSP/Comptech/etc isnt worth the cost for your use.

[.RJ]

I guess I dont know shit

Clearly.

A new head from honda is ~$1200, and thats bare... no valves, guides, cams or seals.

[Mike]

hrmmm so i'm doing some little tallies in my head...

500 for headwork
200 for hondata
150 for intake manifold
450 for exhaust
350 for header (i was thinking jdm 4-1, but i have a dc sports i suppose i could use)
350 for cams
100 for tune
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2100 (or 1750) for 40hp, little room for improvement, and the chance that the rebuild could go wrong

4000 for jdm b18c5 w/ lsd
-1000 for sale of my motor
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3000 for 60hp and stock reliability BUT an unknown history.

hrm, maybe i ought to rethink this swap thing.

[.RJ]

Can you get a ITR engine for cheaper than $4k these days? That seemed to be the going rate a few years ago... I dont keep up with it anymore.