LFS. Thursday 12/31, NOW. Come play dammit.

[ScottyB]

Are you set up to safely trail brake? I prefer backing off the brake strength until lockup won't happen with a warm tire on flat surface. And I bias it slightly more towards the front than really necessary. Then I can reach my mark, slam the brakes full on (I also have braking help turned on, provides a little ABS), and slowly release as I'm turning in. There are a couple corners that I've kept moving my braking point further and further to find that I'm almost entirely trail braking, and surprised the car is up for it.

I try to keep my setups stable and easy to drive, so braking isn't a hairy experience and trail braking isn't hard to do. I'm sure someone with a lot of time and patience could tweak it to be JUST right on the edge, but I'm sure my approach uses at least 90% of the brake potential. The "regulars", who beat me as well, don't seem to be doing it in braking.

We could meet up tonight and do some testing! 8)

the thing is, i'm kind of wrapped up in a big mess:

i can trailbrake well -- my problem is braking distance. because i run alot of camber in the front, i have to back off my braking power (to not lock up) and this in turn allows alot of people to outbrake me. so then, i change my camber to get more front grip so that i can brake harder....which in turn screws up my cornering grip/balance and i have to take a different line or spend another 2 days trying in vain to perfect a new setup.

i will try the braking help feature though. normally i swear off any "help" features and force myself to learn on my own, but i'm desperate to make any improvement at all.

i've tried your setups Chan, and they are great. problem is, no matter how long i drive them i can't get close to your times so i'm pretty sure my driving style is simply different. what also kills me is that i'll try to hang with guys that have a genuinely sloppy/toss-it-in driving style and i still get walked no matter how smooth i am. maybe its gearing?