09-12-2006, 06:34 PM
Goodspeed Wrote:Wow, I'm sorry but this just isn't the case, atleast not how you present it to be. Yes there are extremist mosques that donate funds to terrorist groups, and there are people who willingly donate to them. But I can honestly tell you from experience that this is a definite minority, not the majority. In reality many of them don't know they are donating to terrorism, they donate to various fronts for terrorist funding that represent themselves as legitimite charitable organizations, it happens all the time and several have been busted.You personally know all the muslims of the world? Dont try to put words in my mouth or jump to the conclusion that I said all muslims are terrorists. I have no doubts in my mind that the majority of the muslims in this country are just as patriotic as I am, and I have never and will never look at an arab and think to myself he is a <edit>terrorist</>.
My point is that the terrorism, jihadists, and radical movement has moved past a miniscule perverted sect of islam and is showing influence in mainstream Islam to the point where there is no solid division.
Quote:Governments supporting terrorism? Yes, a few....Iran actually fosters it, Syria and Yemen let it happen, Lebanon is forced to by Hezbollah muscling their way into power. ...
...If anything you just proved my point. Thats a lot of countries, but you arent finished.
You're leaving out the African Muslim countries which is the largest area of growth of fundamentalist Islam. In Sudan alone over 2 million christians have been killed over the past 10 years. Libya has a long history of sponsoring terrorism.
And lets not forget countries like Saudi Arabia (whose official -and required- religion is Wahhabism) and Pakistan who play friends with us politically but turn their heads and pretend not to notice the massive terrorist movements in their borders.
Then of course there is Palestine where the "tiny minority of radicals" managed to elect a terrorist group into political power.
Quote:Masses of poor muslims who praise terrorism? Why is that? Oh yeah its because their governments don't give a SHIT about them, don't give them any funding or support, let them live off the charity that sometimes comes through from other nations/organizations.So that makes it ok to turn to terrorists, to praise the killings of thousands? Unfortunately there is plenty of poverty in this world (and the US is contributing more than anyone else to fight that) but most of them dont start killing people or supporting killing people just because they are poor.
And guess what, the millions of dollars in terrorist funding isnt coming from the poor folks
Quote:These are simply people being USED under the guise of religious practice. These are desperate people that have gone through extreme social change in the last generation. They are confused, upset with their governments, but most of all angry.I agree to a certain extent, but you are completely ignoring the expansion of radical Islam in developed democratic countries like britain and educated muslims.
After the 7/7 subway bombings in London, a London Times poll stated that 13 per cent of British Muslims believed that the 7/7 attackers were martyrs
The New Yorker had an open discussion with students at an affluent Muslim private school in New York about the events of 9/11. When asked questions about what they thought of the hijackers, they all agreed that the hijackers were martyrs and would go to heaven.
A Washington Post article a couple years ago said about Britain, which has a large Muslim population, "has long served as a base for militant Islamic fundamentalist groups, including the network of Osama bin LadenLondon was the base of operations for Khaled al-Fawwaz, said to be a top bin Laden lieutenant and a recruiter of young men for al Qaeda military units.
"By hosting the dissidents, the theory went, Britain was also buying itself immunity from acts of terrorism on its soil," the paper reported. An Arab journalist was quoted as saying, "It's a political game that can be effective as long as you know how to play it, but it can also come back to haunt you."
Quote:Its WAAAY more complicated then "they flew planes into us, so i'm gonna hate all muslims", thats just ignorant and frankly the exact attitude that is driving this country into the groundIf you think for 1 second thats what I have been saying then you didnt bother to read what I wrote (or lack the comprehension skills to understand it) and just used it to springboard your cookie cutter CAIR propaganda routine
